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Calmador on 15 July 2013
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TheLastStarFighter said:
Calmador said:
TheLastStarFighter said:
Is the OP actually ever going to post a Bible quote that says pre-marital sex is bad? None of the quotes posted say that.

Exodus 2:14

14 “You shall not commit adultery.

This is the "master" verse that speaks of either all or most of sexual immorality as I know it, as a Christian. This is one of the ten commandments.

Adultery is sex outside of marriage. This means you can't have sex with animals. This means that sex before marriage, fornificiation, is not something to do as-well.

I'm surprised you even need a verse to a very very well known principle.
adultery  (əˈdʌltərɪ) 
 
— n  , pl -teries
  voluntary sexual intercourse between a married man or woman and a partner other than the legal spouse
 

See, this is the problem.  Adultery means if you have given a commitment to someone, you should not be with someone else.  It is not the act of sex which is evil and sinful, it is the betrayal of trust.  If you are in a loving relationship - married or unmarried - then sex can be an expression of that.  If sex is a betrayal of commitment to another, then you are breaking Jesus's fundamental message of treating others how you wish to be treated.

There is nothign in the bible about pre-marital sex.  The stance you are taking is the problem with so many Christians in the eyes of non-Christians.  Your stance has no value. No one will believe that sex is wrong, so they mock your views.  It's too bad that this becomes the image of Christians, as it's not actually a Christian stance.  It's actually a stance that dates to ancient Greeks and adopted by early Greek Christians, but that's another story.

You should stop spouting these bible quotes and live by the simple message of be kind for others.  If you do this you will not be mocked by others, but rather you will be admired.

Its there...

Matthew 15:19-21

19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies. 20 These are the things which defile a man, but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile a man.”

Ezekiel 16:26
Thou hast also committed fornication with the Egyptians thy neighbours, great of flesh; and hast increased thy whoredoms, to provoke me to anger

1 Corinthians 6:9–10
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

 

The Ezekiel verse is the most clear verse from anyone's point of view.


When I gave you that "master verse" basically it implies that any sex that is not within a marriage (between a man and a woman) is an evil thing. That's why things like beastiality and sex before marriage is wrong.

This is easily a Christian stance.

Actually, there were a number of posters that supported this view... Christian and non-Christain. Joseph in the old testament, in the book of Genesis... before the Greeks even existed resisted sex with a governer's wife...which would be fornication. Joseph wasn't married and he called this a wicked thing. Also, that Ezekiel verse is probably in a time before the Greeks even existed.

I don't look for admiration in anybody. If people mock me or not doesn't mean a thing to me. This is for your sake and anyone else who reads' sake.



All gaming systems, consoles/PC, have thier perks... why fight over preferences? I like Coke and you like Pepsi, that's it, let's not fight over which toy we like best cause that's what they are. Is someone's preference in a toy important or is the relationship between you and your neighbor more important? Answer is obvious, but THE most important thing is your relationship with God almighty. God Bless you in Jesus's name.

I can communicate without talking... I can send a loved one money without actually sending money... and I can commit theft without the product disappearing, the point of theft is the point of theft not one of it's possible symptoms which is the product dissappearing. The thief wants to gain something without paying for it, that's the point of theft, the thief doesn't have to care or anybody else has to care if the product dissappears. The product dissappearing is just a possible symptom of theft. Gifts are sacrfices, in order to give a gift, it has to be a genuine sacrfice/gift, meaning a copy of the game isn't still in your PC. Piracy is theft and/or being a culprit of theft.