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timmah on 15 July 2013
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bobgamez said:
Mmmfishtacos said:
o_O.Q said:
Mmmfishtacos said:
Mr Khan said:
Something really should be happening to this guy. I doubt he had lethal intent, but it's clear that he needs to learn that guns kill people, and that if it hadn't been a black teenager he killed, he would have gotten in a lot of trouble

Sorry, People should learn not to attack people in FL, you will lose your life, doesn’t matter if kid was only going to beat him up. He had the right and he used it. The fact is this only went this far because the kid was black. Nothing more. This should have never went to trial. The law is clear.

so i suppose you completely disregard the fact that zimmerman pursued the kid and initiated whatever conflict they had?

He followed someone he found to be suspicious in his neighborhood he was in his right to do so. In other words it's not illigal. The kid should have just kept on till his dads house, and not snuck up and attacked Zimmerman. 

poliec told him not to follow him, he followed him. If a man follows me in a car, i start to run, i hide, and if the guy gets out the car and walks towards me in a bush i act in self defense, its quite clear he messed up big time

I've heard this nonsense so many times it's really starting to bother me. Just because you pretend something is true does not make it true. Now, do you really believe that when you call 911, you speak directly to the police, or are you just deliberately inventing this false statement to make a nonexistent argument? When you call 911, you speak to a 911 operator, who is a civilian just like you or me. Sucker punching somebody from behind a bush and banging their head into the concrete while on top of them (as Trayvon allegedly did) is not self defense, it is aggravated assault. That's what the evidence suggests, that's what the jury had to make their decision on. Let me get this straight, you're saying if a guy 'walks towards you', you can just beat the shit out of him because you don't know his motives? Your argument is so weak it's kind of funny.

Granted, we can't know everything in this case for certain, but it does appear from the evidence that at the time Zimmerman pulled the trigger, it was self defense by law. It's obviously a terrible tragedy that Trayvon lost his life, but it does not appear that he was just some innocent kid in all this, nor was there any evidence this was race based. He was thought to be suspicious because he was walking along the front of the homes instead of on the street or sidewalk (IE, trespassing across everyone's yard). If I saw this in my neighborhood , I would be a bit suspicious as well, regardless of whether the person was white, black, or purple.