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Cobretti2 on 14 July 2013
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WrathofTank said:
Cobretti2 said:
WrathofTank said:

The scenario I explained above is how many people are murdered, beaten, raped, etc.  They are attacked unexpectely and usually can't defend themselves properly.

It's great that you feel confident in your ability to defend yourself.  Unfortunately with this type of thinking you would likely become a victim of serious bodily injury or death (if put into the scenario mentioned above).  If you had a gun on you and didn't defend yourself from the attacker it would be unwise.


My problem with this is the fact that all the stuff you describe happens to many people. Rather then using guns as a solution to self defence why not work out the root cause of these issues? Here in Aus we do have those crimes but at the same time no one fears it will happen to them because they are so rare. If they do happen 9/10 times there was a motive behind it.

As someone who has travelled to America it amazes me how you can have some of the nicest places in the world and very friendly people and at the same time have areas that you feel like you are going to die in if you enter them.

Look I understand he was defending himself and all and I do agree by American law he is innocent. However the situation could have  been handled better and would have been if shoot first ask questions later wasn't bread into America's society.

First why aren't these neighbourhood watch guys trained in self defense and give say tazors etc as first choice of weapon?

Secondly why didnt he just annouce himself as neighbourhood watch?

Thirdly why arn't they patrolling in pairs in a job that may lead to altercations? 

We don't live in fear of these things in the USA either, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't be prepared to deal with it if the situation occurs.  I agree that the incident could have been avoided and handled differently, but once the attack occurred, Zimmerman's actions were reasonable.

I like your solutions  for preventing this type of incident in the future, but people should always have the right to defend themselves if a sitution where their life or safety is at risk.


The thing is you shouldn't need to be prepaired if these crimes were rare. These types of crimes need to be reduced. However I don't know what the solution is because of the long American culture of guns and race vs race isn't something you will fix overnight.

Even in this thread you see some people bring up the whole black vs white thing. Why is this even a factor in modern America? This will only fuel more violence because of the verdict. Plus Jessie Jackson isn't helping the situation with his rants.

Slightly of topic but are people still hung up about slavery? Like when was the last black slave? Also what about the indians? why no one care about them? Granted all this was wrong in Americas history, but that is what it is, history and it is not like it happened only a few years ago. People need to move on and work out their differences. Kids arnt born racist they are tought to be by their parents and generations before them and friends.

Look at Europe and Germany as an example, do you see many people still hating them because of Hitler and his action? If you look at the older generations sure but the younger ones just don't care as it is in the past and all they can do is learn not to do the same. Even throught history someone has enslaved someone and are we all meant to hate each other because of it?