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ethomaz on 13 July 2013
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Pemalite said:

Always fix something? Have you used a PC? I haven't formatted my PC in years, we aren't in the days of Windows 9x where ejecting a CD/DVD that is being accessed will crash the entire system.
Heck, I took my SSD out of my old AMD system with Windows on it and dropped it into my main Intel system when I built it, trouble free, no reformat or reinstall of windows required for me personally.

I work with PC remember? I'm a developer... and yes you have a lot of trouble with PC... my mon and brother are casual users and they had everytime... it is not stable.

Pemalite said:

Alright, go Install Direct X on the PS4, without modding it or Installing Windows. Right, you won't ever be able to, closed environment that's incredibly restricted.
I certainly can't grab a PS4 off the shelf and start making a game that's for sure.

You don't need to install DirectX on PS4... there are wrappers for that... you develop a DirectX game and it will run on PS4... of course at the cost of some overhead.

But at the end you don't need to change your DirectX game to run on PS4... you get you DirectX game and just compile using the wrapper plugin to PS4 ... every single DirectX instruction is converted by the wrapper to PS4 instruction.

And yes... you need the PS4 DevKit to run the games in PS4 not to develop them.... you can develop for PC/Windows and run on PS4 DevKit after.

Pemalite said:

Even ones that require certain Windows libraries? ;) The PS4 doesn't run Windows remember.

What specific libraries? The DirectX (using wrapper plugin) and OpenGL (native) ones are full supported by PS4 DevKit...

Pemalite said:

Bonaire is GCN 1.1.
Do you even know what the ACE's do?
PC's power management is superior, why? Because I can alter it personally.

It's not... the latest AMD ISA document didn't say that... AMD didn't give a archicteture name for Bonaire... reviews site are calling it GCN 1.1.

Yeap... in a easy way ACEs are schedules units for computer tanks... PS4 can schedule 4x more computer tasks than Bonaire... in fact the PS4 can do the same number than what is found into AMD GCN 2.0 ISA document... that means more efficiency in the execution of compute code when you don't need to wait others tasks finish to run more code (if you have GPU units free of course)... the same applies to Queue Pipelines (PS4 have 8 too compared with 2 of Bonaire).

PC power management is more flexible not superior... the PS4 one is better for what is designed... so the power consumption is better managed.

Pemalite said:

Ugh. Depending on usage, yes Fermi is superior to Kepler for compute scenarios because of FP64, we are talking Desktop chips here, Tesla is Server.

We are talking about architecture... what I can do if nVidia limits by driver (software... they limit the clock for FP64) the FP64 performance of GeForce Titan/780 compared to Teslas... they uses the same GK110... you can change that (mod) so the FP64 clock run like Tesla (the same than core clock).