| Veracity said: 1. Because you are only addressing single points and pretending that's my entire argument. I've made many statements here and they should be taken as a continuous response. 2. A computer is a slave to programming. If it is asked about its existence it can see if its memory bank of responses pertains to the question, but it cannot rationalize a response of its own volition. 3. you also completely ignored my animal example despite being directly applicable to humans. 4. if you are referring to vegetables then they do not have conscious. 5. you don't acknowledge the scientific fact that conscious comes from the brain? |
1. I only responded to what I felt needed to be responded to. But just for your sake. I will repost your post and respond to all the points
| Veracity said: (a) Because every human, when presented with the question of "do you exist" responds in the same affirmative manner. (b) An extension to animals would be their ability to avoid predators realizing "they" are and need to avoid threats. ( c) It is a byproduct of a brain. (d) Trees are not conscious at the macro level |
(a) I responded to this and this conversation is ongoing.
(b) I can give the same answer to this that I can give as 'a'. Computers can be programmed to do it.
(c ) What is your point? Are you arguing that because something is the byproduct of the brain, it cannot be produced using other means? Moreover, I addressed this in the OP, so I didn't feel it needed to be responded to.
(d) This is a true statement. Not sure why you brought this up.
2. Humans also need to look back on their memory bank of facts, experiences, etc. to rationalize. Sure, they don't have preset answers to questions. But I have no reason to believe that robots won't advance far enough where they too will look bank on their memory bank of facts and experiences to rationalize, without just responding with preset answers.
3. It's basically the same as your human example with a diffferent application. Don't see why both need a response.
4. I'm talking about mentally retarded humans with an inability to speak and have a low awareness. Do you believe they have rights?
5. No, I don't deny that. Just because something comes from the brain, that doesn't mean it can only come from the brain.
