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CDiablo said:
papamudd said:
US amazon.com currently has PS4 (sold out) #3 and X180 #6

and the only other next gen items are ps4 controller and another PS4 SKU @ 92 & 96

no other consoles / games / accessories currently in top 100 on US amazon.com site

amazon uk
ps4 # 4
x180 #48
x180 (second sku) #69
no games/accessories

This speaks VOLUMES about the resale market for PS4/XBONE. I remember shortly after E3 people on slickdeals(a electronics deal website, with many "flippers" people who buy cheap and sell/trade in for more money) saying that they were buying 10-20 PS4's. Im sure XBONE has its flipers as well. I smell returns!

to an extent you are right.  there will be flippers.  ..but my pre-order is for myself (not flipping) and i didn't buy any games either.  digital downloads baby!!  most people will still be physical but a decent sized chunck will not and the crowd that goes digital is probably closely aligned with the crowd the pre-orders consoles months in advance.