| the2real4mafol said: 1. it is immoral because it shouldn't matter whether they are gay or straight. They are still a person after all. If anything, abortions should be made on medical or financial grounds only. Also, suggesting there is a cure to being gay suggests that it is wrong but this is just how some people are. Also, i don't think the gay population will ever get high enough to impact the population trends. 2. Yes all non-straight people should be considered normal. There is no need to discriminate someone because of their sexual believes. If catholic priests can get away with being child molesters, why do people discriminate against gays, lesbians, trannies etc.? Also, i'm not sure if you could make a man feel like a man if they think they feel like a women. What would you do? 3. If they are good parents then why does it matter? I doubt it is any different to a kid who has 1 parent or even an orphan. 4. People can try to be gay or whatever but to some people it just don't feel right, others it clearly does feel right. But i'm not sure if it's down to a gene or not. On the other hand, Criminals Commit Crimes Partly because of the environment they grew up in. Like Serial Killers grew up to drunk and abusive parents most of the time. But for criminals, i think there is more free will as it's up to them to commit the act or not regardless of their childhood. Gays are just gay but criminals can choose to not do a crime if they want to. |
Since many people have replied now, I will try to reply only to certain parts that catch my attention, which are bolded above.
By a cure I only mean some sort of way to stop the variations in sexual orientations. We don't have to see a "cure" as in them being "sick", since we know that variations in sexual orientation are not sicknesses in any way, and do not affect mental health. Gender identification issues are not sicknesses in the conventional sense either, but it's been shown that their brain activity and form varies from that of people without these issues. Also remember that people with gender identification issues usually take hormones when they wish to transition to the other gender.
Now, try to see this topic without considering any of the hatred against the transgender groups or any of the history. That is, try to be truly unbiased. Some mental condition that would lead to the person to take hormones to change their physical appearance does not appear to me to be a truly healthy condition, regardless of what the mental condition is. I realize that by saying this, I'm basically saying transgender people have something different with them and that is true no matter how much the leftists want to say it's not. As I've said in my second post, they're normal in every sense of the law and rights, and what's different with them is not wrong, but it may not be desirable either for future people (or counter-intuitively, it may be desirable somehow?).
So my position on the transgender issue is this: If research shows that having gender identification issues brings about a considerable risk to mental or physical health to the individuals, and if this risk can be linked to the gender identification issues as their direct cause (i.e. no indirect social problem), then looking for a cure to the transgendered condition is, at the very least, reasonable, despite what the political left may say on the grounds of their ideologies.
However, if research shows (or has shown, but I don't know if this has happened yet) that the gender identification issues do not bring about considerable risk or are not the direct cause, then the transgendered condition can be said to be a simple variation on brain activity and form, and cannot be said to cause harm.
Note that this question has nothing to do with question 3, which is completely apart from this. Even if the gender identification issues are or aren't only simple variations of brain activity, this still doesn't provide insight on how their children would be affected by their parents. Note I'm not at all suggesting to control in any way how people with gender identification issues should breed or adopt children; it's way too early for that and it would be irrational at this point. I am, however, suggesting that the research should be done to determine whether it doesn't truly matter.
