By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close
thismeintiel on 05 July 2013
Edit Thread
roam said:
haxxiy said:
roam said:

 this kid, not zimmerman, was fighting for his life... and he lost.

How exactly he was fighting for his life when his only injury was the bullet wound? He most likely initiated the agression and was clobbering Zimmerman in the ground before he was shot. You can't simply fight off imaginary or real stalkers because you think they might attack you like that.

As for your 911 call, the judgement should be over his action and whether or not it constituted a crime, not over his character.


its not about his character at all, it goes right to his frame of mind in that moment.   trayvon was just some dehumanized punk criminal asshole, who was getting away.  he was an outsider, he didnt belong there in zimmermans neighbourhood.     you cant even follow this situation logically and then presume zimmerman to be a victim.   why even get out of his vehicle to follow the kid if he didnt want to stop him?  probability points to zimmerman initiating the fight.  losing a fight doesnt mean you arent the aggressor.   in addition the wounds were superficial.   trayvon is dead...so he was pretty clearly fighting for his life.  even zimmerman himself said it didnt sound like himself yelling in the recording. 

Well, I suppose it's good for Zimmerman that the evidence points away from your "probability."  Zimmerman had no injuries to his hands, which suggests he wasn't the one to initiate the fight, while having gashes in the back of his head and a broken nose.  Trayvon, however, had slight injuries to his fists, suggesting he was the aggressor in the fight.  His only other injury was the bullet wound.  There was also NO DNA from Zimmerman under his fingernails, which suggests that he didn't claw at Zimmerman.  Something someone who was fighting for his life, screaming "help me," would have done.

I have never heard Zimmerman say he didn't think that was him yelling on the 911 call.  Trayvon's dad, however, initially stated that it definitely wasn't Trayvon.  Of course, he changed his story once the media and civil rights activists got involved and turned this into a race trial.

I have to say, this is the one thing I don't get about people who are 100% behind Trayvon.  They seemingly ignore evidence and logic just so they can justify seeing this "white" Hispanic crucified.  What's sad is that the police and original prosecutor KNEW there wasn't enough evidence to convict Zimmerman, especially since the evidence was supporting Zimmerman's account of the events, but that wasn't good enough for the mob.  So they had to bring in a special prescutor to try and appease them.  It won't work, unfortunately, since most of those calling for justice will be calling for Zimmerman's head if he is acquited.