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dahuman on 05 July 2013
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Adinnieken said:
dahuman said:

I want them to make it so when I press the start button or the shortcut key on the keyboard, that the start page doesn't take over my entire screen. I've already understood that it's a full screen start menu since the preview days, and I immediately went "WTF?" The open applications are not immediately visible to me unless I do the following things: move my fucking mouse to the left side like the hidden taskbar style which I don't ever hide because I want to see what's running at all times, or, I try to drag it out with the touch screen which works like shit on all sides because they designed it to be a pain in the ass, alt-tab, or windows-tab.

Shutting down my computer used to take 2 quick clicks on the bottom left, now I have to move my shit all the way to the upper right, then go all the way down again, then click 2 times,  or right click on the new start button and go through more steps, or ctrl-alt-del that shit which all take longer, they apparently forgot that people TURN THEIR FUCKING PCs OFF unlike tablets or smartphones because it draws way more power to be faster!

There is no folder option on the start screen, which means I have to unpin all sorts of shit after I install new things or it becomes a cluster fuck of pure shitness, instead they want me to put things in categories and scroll through all sorts of bullshit to get to where I want to, who in their fucking mind decided that it was a good design for a mostly non-touch environment are not the people I ever want to work with because they are fucking idiots.

All they had to do was add more functions to the start menu(and an option to make the menu bigger if the user has a touch monitor or laptop) and make it look pretty while having the speed of Windows 8, because I do like the speed of Windows 8, but that Windows 8 UI start screen is an abomination of user-friendliness and a cluster fuck with no folder options because they are trying to be innovative and failed hard. Why do you think OSX Mountain Lion doesn't look like iOS? It's because when Steve Jobs was still alive, he wasn't fucking stupid insane.

I get what MS is trying to do with the whole integration thing, and the problems are currently: a.) It's very anti-consumer in it's current state and b.) they are doing it wrong.

BTW Vista's problem was it's bloated-ness and the kernel handled drivers like shit, the only reason I had it was for the EVR, it otherwise ran like pure shit, they royally fucked that one in a completely different way. 2000 is great though, that was the game changer after 98. XP was just an extension to 2000.

You're not fully embracing the paradigm shift that is Windows 8.  The Start Panel is to Windows 8 as the Desktop is to Windows 95-Windows 7.  The desktop in Windows 8 is essentially a legacy.  There for two reasons, one because the ability to do full-fledged desktop apps within the Metro UI just isn't possible without new controls, and for backward compatibility with pretty much every Windows app.  In the future that goes away.

I don't find the category organization that difficult to work with.  The major challenge are applications that create a bunch of shortcuts.  Visual Studio 2012 is a great example of this.  However, it sounds like if Microsoft augmented the UI so that either with a alternative mouse button click (Previous/Next thumb buttons), cycling through the categories of applications might offer a more workable solution.  You don't need to scroll, just move your mouse to the edge of the screen and it automatically scrolls. 

Win+I takes you quickly to the point where you can shutdown.

You apparently have used any previous version of Windows in a touch enviornment.  Windows 8 was created based on their experience with touch interfaces and trying to integrate the Explorer UI.  It hasn't worked.  Windows Mobile was a CE-based Explorer UI, smartphones based on iOS and Android proved far more popular and resulted in a rapid loss of marketshared because the UI wasn't user friendly.  Microsoft offered a tablet OS back in 2001 with Windows XP for Tablet PCs.  When the iPad came out, the market for Tablet PC-based computers dried up. 

Windows 8 isn't "anti-consumer".  You don't know what "anti-consumer" is if you believe that.  What do you believe "anti-consumer" means? 

Windows Vista isn't any more or less bloated than Windows 7.  Both OSes have EXACTLY the same system requirements.  The only major difference between Windows Vista and Windows 7 is that Windows Vista managed memory differently and as I said this was intended to be inpreporation for WinFS, which was never released.  The way it works with drivers is absolutely no different than the way Windows 7 does.  None what so ever.  The only difference between Windows Vista and Windows 7 as far as drivers go is that OEMs acclimated to the way device drivers were written with Windows Vista by the time Windows 7 came out.   


Hey you asked, and I told you, you can take it or leave it. Metro UI is not a step forward nor backward, it went side ways so don't even try to make it sound like it's something worth embracing because I know what shit is when I see one. When the Zune failed, they should have already realised something was wrong, but they never got the message, so stop sounding like a shill and just take it for what it is because the adaption rate speaks louder than anything that you can come up with and they can only try to force it on people at this point which is exactly what they have been doing.

And really? where did I mention Windows 7 in that paragraph when I was talking about bloated or drivers? Where did I mention Windows 7 at all? So full of shit dood. I'm calling you out right now, do you work for Microsoft? If you do, then I'm actually fine with that, because no sane customer can advocate it that much, not even Dis does that, but if you are getting paid by MS, then it's all good because I actually know quiet a few people that work there in the main building.