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theprof00 said:


I'm only making the argument because the timing of the thread is really bordering on "you people" territory. So I just want to know who is being talked about. 


This is not geared towards any one specific person.   I just want people's opinions on it.  And not sure why you are saying the timing of this thread as you could really say that about any time. You don't have to believe me, but give me the benifit of the doubt.  This is not about anybody and is not intended to start a fanwar.  I just thought it would be an interesting topic to talk about.  Some people has brought up good examples on all sides and I have really enjoyed reading through the responses.