Areym said:
enditall727 said:
Areym said:
The way I see the confrontation, based on everything that I have heard is that GZ was following Trayvon because GZ though he looked suspicious. Whether he was stereotyping Trayvon or not, is somewhat irrelevant and from the recent pictures you can find of Trayvon, he looked like a fucking thug so GZ wasn't too far off. He also appeared to have past problems with violence/weed/etc, I can't say how true it is but his pictures seem to validate his thug-like behaviour. Trayvon's father was apparently a member of a gang in his past, crips from what I have heard but I can't say how true that is.
Anyways, GZ confronts Trayvon, asking him about what he was doing, where was he headed and the likes. At some point, Trayvon attacks GZ and pins him to the ground. Trayvon then proceed to slam GZ head into the pavements so GZ activates the "stand your ground" law and uses his gun in self defense and that is the end of the story. There are pictures of GZ's head being wounded and with a broken nose, although I'm not sure what happened to that piece of evidence.
In my opinion, GZ did kill Trayvon obviously, but he did so in self defense. While GZ probably should not have confronted Trayvon openly, he did not begin a physical confrontation, it was all Trayvon. Trayvon did not need to die that day but his own actions caused his own death. I know Eminem said something that perfectly described Trayvon's downfall but I can't find it. All Trayvon had to do was speak in a rational manner, show GZ he had no intentions of committing any cry and walk away. I assume Trayvon was filled with both anger and fear of being followed but there would be no reason to attack GZ unless he was threatening him physically.
I think GZ will walk and who knows what will happen then. I like to think that people will not get up in arms about the verdict, that we will calm accept or appeal or whatever legal action can be taken if Tray's parent feel that there is some injustice. |
Well you have to remember that anything that happened AFTER that night is irrelevant. So the thug thing is really irrelevant
Zimmerman didn't know his twitter or background so he had to go by what he saw that night
Here is a link to what Trayvon Martin had on the night he was killed --> http://cdn.mediatakeout.com/63599/mto-super-world-exclusive-we-ve-got-the-trayvon-martin-death-pics-the-poor-boy-was-gunned-down-in-cold-blood.html
I dont see how he looked like a thug that night. He said that he was cutting through houses and it made me think about myself and all the people that i know. We used to cut through houses all the fucking time lol
So in that earlier vid, it seemed like he was saying that he was pretty much just keeping an eye on him and then he got on the phone, Trayvon came up and asked "what's your problem" then Trayvon broke his nose and tried to kill Zimmerman
But what happened with all that other stuff though like him asking Zimmerman "why are you following me?" while he was still on the phone with that girl or whatever.
And the thing about Trayvon creeping aroind the bushes or dark area surprising Zimmerman. idk this seems weird. I feel like something happened when they confronted eachother that we dont know. I still feel like Trayvon should've kept walking home though
Edit: i think i'm done
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I will agree that zimmerman should have left it at that. There really was no need for him to follow him any further. It was also a stupid move on Trayvon's part to assault Zimmerman, assuming Trayvon is the one who started the PHYSICAL confrontation which is what I believe happened. Had any of them walked away from the situation, nobody would have died and neither deserved to die that night.
Also, I believe that picture is quite old. If the media used this picture as often as his younger (white hoodie/ red hollister shirt) pictures:
things might be a bit more skewed. Some of the more recent pictures like this one show that Trayvon is not necesarily the hoodied-saint that he is being described. GZ could also be kinda racist, I don't know. It would seemslike he was being overly suspicious of Trayvon because he was black but i don't know.
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That's one way to do it. Put Zimmermans most professional suit wearing picture of him smiling against Trayvons least professonal pictures.
You have to stop focusing on this thug thing and pay more attention to what happened that night. I'll agree that it definitely doesn't help hixhis image though
I also believe that Zimmerman is not a saint. I'm not just going to justify him being killed because he was flicking off the camera in a picture. The boxers showing is aggravating but it wasn't like thaythat in all his pictures and he was young and had time to grow as a human being. Now we have Zimmerman who killed a kid for what? Because he thought the Kid was going rob a house after he came from the store with candy and some tea.
I honestly dont believe that Trayvon just blindly attacked Zimmerman. There was something that happened there that we dont know about and we wont know because we onlyonly have Zimmermans side of the story.
Im thinking that they both eventually started mouthing off to each other and then it escalated from there. I feel like Zimmerman HAD to do something to make Trayvon hit him.
But we will never know. That's the benefit of having a DEAD witness.
I don't believe that his original intentions were to kill Ttayvon though. I think they both reacted poorly and it got to a point where Zimmerman shot Trayvon.
I'm not sure if he should get life but he should get SOME type of time
I live in Florida and i see this type of stuff all the time. NEITHER of the sides are saints usually
