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theprof00 on 03 July 2013
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Imaginedvl said:
theprof00 said:

Look just because you can't say either way what will happen, doesn't mean evidence doesn't exist to support a future conclusion.

The PC argument is grabbing at straws. PC has been doing more and better than what consoles do since the beginning of everything. Why would it change now? You're just throwing that out there and saying "that's your logic".

PCs are much more expensive (for the average consumer) and tend to get all sorts of other problems like viruses, etc. Consoles are not only optimized to play games, but their hardware actually significantly outperforms the same hardware in a pc. There are myriad reasons why that example doesn't work. And this has been the main reasoning why consoles have thrived, because they're cheap, and easy. They take out the complication of having too much, and simplify, which increases performance and dramatically lowers price by comparison.

Specialization is what has helped consoles thrive.

You're taking my argument of people buying out of convenience and specialization, and saying that I'm logically saying that nobody would buy consoles because of PCs. It's like the opposite of my point.

TV isn't a draw (to the casual audience) because the other products are cheaper and more closely align (by a wide margin) with what a casual interested in tv controls wants.

XB1 doesn't do the tv control significantly better than the competition, and where it counts (price) it's severely outclassed... it's not cheaper, and it's not easier. There are specialized products that do what xb1 does in terms of tv control for a lot cheaper, and a lot easier, and a lot smaller.

Oh, and don't forget that xb1 STILL needs another box in order to even USE the tv function...and it's a Microsoft peripheral. I mean, COME ON. So it's not just 500, but probably another 100, on top of live. If those numbers aren't looming catastrophically above you like a towering building beginning to lean over, I don't know what else to say to you. It's sheer madnees what they're expecting people to pay for.

These aren't opinions imagine. These are facts.

Some of these are facts indeed... What you predict for the Xbox One are just speculations, but it is okay, keep calling them fact if it makes you happy :)

And even if as of now, the PS4 future is looking good, Microsoft's vision is still a long term one and they proved, starting with the original Xbox and Xbox Live, that they can defintely have a success with new ideas. It is not everyone who blindly believe that nothing can change and that the best way to have a long term success is just to create an Xbox 360+/PS3+... Microsoft may fail miserably with this strategy but they can also succeed and be in a far better position than Sony in the living room. Just deal with it lol

Keep thinking I'm just some fanboy who wants whatever I say to come true. I predicted an always online console with streaming to offset lower end hardware and a steam like strategy nearly a full year before the consoles were announced. I also predicted that the 10 person sharing thing was bogus (because it was too good). I also said MS would NEVER have controlling DRM when the rumours were circulating because I said "it would absolutely destroy them". I'm not just talking nonsense. Binary solo gets it. It's over generalized, and not specialized in anything enough to draw any real interest from groups that are looking for those specific things...especially when those specific things are already represented in the marketplace.

I said, and will say again, wii won last gen with just one specific function. The other two just about lost money on their consoles. All you need is specialization in one aspect, and xb1 doesn't do it at all. Making everyone happy makes nobody happy.