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Calmador on 02 July 2013
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Soleron said:
Calmador said:
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Exactly, it can be dirty, see I knew you could see that. The topic of this thread.. in a phrase it says "Avoiding Lust"... This is what can avoid rape and also I have heard that hate is a great cause for rape... God said that a husband should love his wife as Christ loved the church. Hate would not fit into those teachings.

As for evidence of God... here you go...

I used to be agnostic

I decided to give God faith in order to establish a connection with God.

Then I continued iwth my plan... and prayed for a vision... and said if you do give me a vision I'll serve you all my life and if you don't... I'll never believe in you again and will deny you no matter what.

I had a vision.

I am now a Christian and KNOW God exists.

You officially have evidence of God's existence. God Bless

Yeah, that's not sufficient evidence for me.

Did you know I had a vision of the Flying Spaghetti Monster? He told me I should worship him by eating bolognaise whenever I feel like it. I now KNOW he exists.

I choose to side with God's ideas of how sex should practice.... If you want to know what I thought about sex... sure I'll tell you. Before I was more deeply involved with God, I would scam almost everyday on how to seduce and use up girls. I thought it was the normal and acceptable thing to do. I thought everyone was doing it... its okay as long as nobody knows or atleast not a lot people. The only MORAL ideas I found we're in the Bible.

I guess, good for you that you found a way to convince yourself not to do these things. I and other people manage to do it without any Bibles at all.

And yes all those evil outcomes can be prevented by keeping a pure mind, self-control, waiting for sex until marriage because I know it. I haven't seduced a girl and used her up like what seems to be the trend among men. All thanks to what I'm saying... it is because when I was 11 years old and decided to listen to God that I'm not a player right now. I know it works. And I know by just looking arund me... that not going about it this way... doesn't work. I hear men snickering and saying "She has the face and the body.. look at her.. yeah hit and quit it." Its clear we need God.

It's clear YOU need God.

About aids... I've heard of people putting words into othe people's mouth but this is more like putting context into my words. I never said that that was God's punishment. Bad consequences are not always a result of God punishing people. The best way I can explain it is... that naturally if you get out of the light.. you'll be in the dark and it wasn't the light's fault. It was yours and your doing. So, I don't know if that was God's punishment or it was just a natural consequence. But, I do know this, God said we shouldn't have sex with animals. It was a good warning.

People manipulating others for money and power is clearly bad. Its clear in the scriptures. Actually Jesus showed the most judgement on that when he caught merchants profitting/manipulating off poor people in church or synagogue. Jesus went so far as knocked down the tables of the merchants and took out a whip and whiped the manipulative merchants out of there.

The Bible is obssessed with sex and sexual morality far more than money. Even a casual reading such that I have done shows that. I wish to know the historical reason for that.

Why is God's way the best? As you read above, I know he exists. Then I look at what he says... I look around and then at myself in how God has worked in me and see that not being enslaved to sex... and seeking after it and manipulating people for it. Or making it a priority in life is better. It's obvious.

OK, so it's the best way for you. And you believe it's the best way for others. But, you still haven't shown anyone that it's the best way for them, unless they also believe in God.

1. I chose to express God's existence as I know it. It is not to make a better argument but literally me just talking to you. I'm not going to exclude God.

2. Again, I won't exclude God.

Sure, but you continually run up against the barrier of your arguments being ineffective because they rely on the listener believing.



For the record, I say what I say because I know he exists. I also say it because the teachings make sense in avoiding evil actions. (ie Don't obessively think sexually about the opposite sex) I also say what I say based off results on myself and others. I want that to be remembered.

Also, I mentioned a scene where Jesus whiped manipulative merchants that were tricking poor people. That clearly showed that the God does not approve of manipulating people for power. Yet, you couldn't accept that. I might understand how other things I've said are harder for you to accept but not that one. Anyways...

I guess we're done here. I'll see you around



All gaming systems, consoles/PC, have thier perks... why fight over preferences? I like Coke and you like Pepsi, that's it, let's not fight over which toy we like best cause that's what they are. Is someone's preference in a toy important or is the relationship between you and your neighbor more important? Answer is obvious, but THE most important thing is your relationship with God almighty. God Bless you in Jesus's name.

I can communicate without talking... I can send a loved one money without actually sending money... and I can commit theft without the product disappearing, the point of theft is the point of theft not one of it's possible symptoms which is the product dissappearing. The thief wants to gain something without paying for it, that's the point of theft, the thief doesn't have to care or anybody else has to care if the product dissappears. The product dissappearing is just a possible symptom of theft. Gifts are sacrfices, in order to give a gift, it has to be a genuine sacrfice/gift, meaning a copy of the game isn't still in your PC. Piracy is theft and/or being a culprit of theft.