Prediction: XBox 1 will win the generation (consoles)

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Carl2291 said:

Ill counter your points in the OP anyway.

• The Xbox brand is really only strong in America and Britain. Outside of these areas, the brand really isnt that strong at all.
• Microsft had Billions to spend when they launched the Xbox. It finished a distant 2nd. Microsoft had Billions to spend when they launched the 360. Theyre currently in last place. Having Billions to spend doesnt mean the product will "win".
• Is this the same concrete plan that they recently did a 180 on? 

The brand isnt strong enough outside of America and Britain. Theyre gonna get stomped. Its gonna be brutal.

Again, I admit it isn't the best source but according to Google trends, XBox is searched for a lot worldwide and not just in the U.S and U.K. It isn't fair because people normally just say "XBox" for the whole brand instead of PS2, PS3, PS4 and so on. I wasn't saying the brand is bigger than the PS brand, I was just pointing out it's much stronger than people on this site seem to believe. Having money won't guarantee a win but does help a lot and yes, it did help the XB360. I still think that Microsoft does have a plan, it just won't include a ton of digital things at launch. 

 

• The most powerful console has never before been cheaper than the competition, while at the same time recieving brilliant support from 1st parties and 3rd parties. This is an anomoly and it cant be used as a negative against the PS4. Its a silly point.
• "Doing things different" isnt necessarily the key to success. I think this is a silly point.
• Sony really dont need to get into a price war, because the system is already far cheaper than the Xbox One and the Wii U is struggling as it is due to a lack of support. The pricing for the machine is perfect and Sony should be able to hold the $399 tag for at least 2 Years, providing support stays strong for the console (It will).

 I agree, you can't really go off history to the point of win or lose. You can however, make judgement and learn from history in order to make an educated guess. The GameCube was arguably the most powerful of its generation as well as the cheapest. It just didn't have the 3rd party support as you mentioned. Still, PS4 will mainly have multi-plats and I'd bet Wii U will have more exclusives in the end. That is speculation though so who knows. Has a system ever won without doing something special besides for the SNES? NES: Did everything different. PS: CD support. PS2: DVD support. Wii: Motion control. I will admit that the PS4 is a great value and that will only get better but is it enough?

 

• Wii U Party wont do shit in the grand scheme of things, because the controller doesnt appeal to the mass market. The only way a Pokemon will sell the Wii U in a meaningful way, will be if Nintendo finally push out a proper Pokemon game for the console - This wont happen. We are more likely to get Pokemon Snap U
• Nintendo have the biggest games, yes. Its not the names that sell though, its the experience. Wii Sports on WIi U will be a totally different experience to Wii Sports on Wii It wont have the appeal.
• Price means nothing without support - The WIi U doesnt have meaningful support.

Wii Party U has the tabletop games which could attract the casual market and more is to be announced. I could be wrong but I believe that Nintendo does have ideas for the GPad. They just haven't been able to launch those types of games yet because they screwed up their launch games. I was thinking that a Pokemon N.F.C game could be big if done correctly. Not the main series, that will (and should) stay on 3DS. Nintendo will come up with something I'm sure and it won't be Wii Sports U. I still say Pokemon but we will see. The question is...will it actually work? Wii U doesn't have support for now but that Shoud improve overtime.

 

In all seriousness, I think the order will be PS4 >> Xbox One > Wii U

PS4 > 100 Million

Xbox One ~50 Million

Wii U ~ 40 Million

I don't have sales predictions yet but will get back to you :)