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antfromtashkent on 01 July 2013
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Aldro said:
Mr Puggsly said:
bananaking21 said:
Mr Puggsly said:
bananaking21 said:
for those who are saying joel was selfish, the question is, would you let some people kill a person you love for "the greater good"? no, if its somebody you truly love you wouldnt, it isnt the humane thing to do, its the human thing to do. the ending was perfect IMO

Well he didn't even give her the choice. He made the choice for her and lied because she makes him happy.

That can be perceived as selfish.


well he did lie to her at the end to and carried the burdon, he does realize what her life means, its a cure. but they didnt even give her a choice, they were going to kill her even if she didnt want to. wouldnt you have done the same?

Well if she wanted to sacrifice her self in hopes of finding a cure that's wiping out humanity. I guess you let her make that choice.

My guess is she would have sacrificed herself. So Joel took it in his own hands to make sure that didn't happen.

It was selfish but that's what makes the ending so good.

Once again I would never ever bestow such a decision on my daughter.

If she says no -> That would make her feel like she's dooming humanity and she will feel responsible for the rest of her life.

 

She already kinda knows this, hence why she says at the end =>
"First it was Riley, then Tess, then Sam...".

Then Joel goes like
"Its not your fault and you always find something to believe in, now I know thats not what you want to hear right now.."


And shes like
"Swear to me".

So in a way, I feel her sub contious (spelling check?) is aware of the lie and wants to see if Joel is really going all the way. But another part of her chooses to believe Joel in order to cope with it all. Joel swears in order to remove any guilt she will ever feel. That is the sign of a true caring person. And that is exactly what I would do to someone I truly love even though it might and probably would eat away at me for years to come.

 

 

EDIT:
Fuck man this ending is really something <33333

Hello thread revival. Finished this game a couple of hours ago and decided to give my 2 sence at this particular post. First of this is in fact the best game I have ever played. Second, we really don't know whether Ellie was actually given a choice at the firefly compound before the surgery and she knew the whole time the Joel broke her out of there. Third side note, I would love to see DLC of Ish and his compound since its an amazing setting and their story seemed to keep going out of the compound with an unknown end.