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J_Allard said:
oniyide said:

I cant and thats my point, IMHO they have been mediocore at best. Its a combination of being online only and those games not being all that to begin with that  leads to just ok sales. THe only game tha seemed to be alright is that DUST game and thats online only so who knows how well its doing. 

No, COD wouldnt have reached the heights it did without a strong SP campaign, lets be real here. COD didnt become big till COD4, so it took many entries for it become the juggernaut it is today, and people werent exactly playing the early CODs for strong MP component, they are NOW. BF has always been a PC game and it now has SP modes so that game is kinda moot here. 

DOnt know about the lists im still waiting for all the games that sold better than MAG so we can have a real comparison.

That's exactly what we are saying, the games thrown up for comparison have been mostly pretty ho-hum games that wouldn't have sold great no matter what. DUST is free to play.

I didn't say CoD would have reached "the same heights", only that it still would have sold in the millions. Your reply says as such. CoD didn't become huge until CoD4, even though it had always had amazing SP campaigns.

The part of my reply about the list was not really directed at you unless you're the one who took the time for a rebuttal list. But you can just count the games on that list higher than MAG. I think there were only 24 or so. It's clearly outsold most other Sony games on PS3.

those amazing SP campaigns are one of the reasons its as popular as it is now, maybe not the main reason. You think COD would have been as popular had it ALWAYS been a MP affair? I somehow doubt that, NOW? sure they could take away SP and still do alright but its already been established.