Soleron said:
Kasz216 said:
Soleron said:
Kasz216 said:
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Heck technically at this point we're supposed to already be in the "feedback loop" that's supposed to fuck us over. According to the oldest research it should already be too late to do anything about the enviroment.
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I haven't looked into the research enough to tell.
I do know that we should be appealing to people via their wallets (with investment, renewables can be cheaper than the rising price of oil/gas) rather than altruism.
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Basically how it works is that eventually once it gets hot enough, it creates a feeback loop because it will melt the icecaps quickly.
The icecaps have a ton of greenhouse gases trapped inside them along with water vapor itself just being a greenhouse gas.
So the feedback loop should be pretty apparent. Hot weather melts icecaps, which releases tons of greenhouse gases into the air, which melts icecaps, repeat until no more icecaps.
This is essentially how it was thought natural warming periods came about.
Or more simply
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I'm a physicist, I do know about that.
I meant I haven't examined the actual published papers to see what the consensus is about whether we've reached runaway or not. Most information out there is by proxy via news articles and usually badly communicated.
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Oh we haven't. It's just the bulk majority of earlier research suggested the water vapor effect would be worse. Really the truth is... we still have no idea though. Hell we're not even really sure why it hasn't warmed up as much as the models say it should. Right now it's a combination of deep sea tempetrue increasing more/chinese coal clouds.