Zappykins said:
Do you realize that not only Prop 8, but most all of the anti-marriage laws of the last years have been in most parts led by the Mormon Church and their follower? (I bet you actually do, you are pretty connected.) That being said, they really took alot of heat for not only defeating the Equal Rights Amendment for Women in the 1970's but also for sponsoring Prop 8 in an underhanded way. I do realize many Mormons do support same-sex marriage and have been both horrified and disgusted by the actions of their church. I'm sure others are tired of being the bad guys, and wish the few of those leaders would stop messing in the legal status of other people’s families. Plus, around half of Utah is not Mormon anymore. So you are probably correct. But it could be both at the same time. I could see couples getting married all across the country in states that allow it, and then going to their home state and suing to have it recognized under the "Full Faith and Credit Clause." (Can you make class-action lawsuits across states? They seemed to with the Tobacco Case a few years ago.) Today was a huge win, but one vote in either way on either case could have set rights back a few years.
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I think the difference here is in what the church is doing, and what people believe.
For example, Catholic church is really anti-gay. Most American Catholics support gay marraige. (or maybe i'm thinking aborition, but either way.)
I mean shit, big corporations don't donate to the same people the majority of their workers support.
The real sad part though is combing DOMA and the Voting rights act. They were both ruled unconsitutional, for pretty much the exact same reason! 5-4 splits both ways...
Yet the votes were essentially mirrored.
The Supreme court often gets it right.... but almost exclusvily due to Roberts annd Kennedy. One of whom is usually willing to put aside what they want the law to be or what the law should be.... instead of what it is.
Even if you are like Scalia or Kagan and think the law your voting to support is vitally important to the health of the nation... if it's not consitutional. That's how you should rule.
Either way, I generally expect gay marraige to get to around 2/3rds acceptance in the states, then the Supreme Court ot make another ruling supporting gay marriage everywhere via the same anti-discrimination rulings that were used to strike down interacial marriage bans.
