Angry Joe Thanks gamers and responds to Microsofts reversal

[Shinobi-san]

J_Allard said:

Shinobi-san said:

Bullshit. Offline play works 100% on steam. You only require steam to activate the game. Hell even the fucking people at the shops who sell the games give these instructions very clearly. Seriously dont make some random internet rumour to be true. Steam games work 100% offline. You even trying now to bring Steam down wtf? FFS EVEN EA's ORIGINS WORKS OFFLINE!!!!

And no you can't do any of those things on steam legally. But steam is not a fucking console. Console gamers and PC gamers have different expectations. They are also completely difference types of platforms.

Just fucking wow at your last paragraph O_O are you brainwashed or something? You making as if MS have removed every aspect of DRM from their ecosystem...err no they havent. Same with PS4 DRM does not affect physcal copies it absolutely applies to digital content. I'll say it again EVERY SINGLE FEATURE MS OFFERED PRE DRM REMOVAL IS ENTIRELY POSSIBLE POST DRM REMOVAL. Think about it for 5 minutes and you will realise this too.

And lets say im wrong...Im not..but lets just assume i am. If MS really wanted to implement all those extra "features" there are multiple methods of doing it. Having all those daily checks and stuff is going waaay over the top. And lets be honest here they went over board. And thats where Steam, PS4 and every other single device hasnt crossed the line. They crossed the line added some PR and you took the bait. Good for you. You the smart one obviously -_- I cant believe we are even having this discussion from one gamer to another.

I am aware offline play works. For a varied amount of time depending on the user.

They are two platforms that play games. You know why people are ok with the fact that you can't rent, lend, borrow, or resale PC games? Because you can routinely find them for very cheap.  Console games on the other hand are high in price and stay high in price for awhile, especially digital titles. I would have liked to see what happened with the Xbox One. I would love a console with the financial benefits of the PC market with DRM not quite as strict. Now, there's no telling if people would have accepted that or if it would have actually spurred any change. But it's better than the same consoles we already have just slightly more powerful. If it failed, oh well. There is still the PS4. God forbid someone tries something different.

I cannot fathom what I said in my last paragraph of that post that got you so upset. Instead of getting upset, why not explain how it could be done? All I am saying is I don't see how it could be done. LOL @ brainwashed. That's precious.

Steam offline play works. Period. It does not cutoff after a certain time period. Valve has never ever claimed that. And if you buy the game in store the people there will tell you that you only need internet to activate. They can't make things up...thats obviously what valve or the distributor told them to say. They can't lie about stuff like that. Atleast that is what happens in my country and in the shops i buy my games at.

People don't really have a choice with Steam games to lend, borrow or resell PC games. However they can shop at GoG and get DRM free versions. Anyways im of the opinion, like some others, that their is a fundamental difference between consoles gaming as a platform and steam. You will disagree so lets move on.

I said brainwashed because you are just taking everything MS is releasing and not actually thinking about what their motives were. And i still believe that all their functions they spoke about are possible without DRM and especially without daily check-ins.