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teigaga said:
gergroy said:
NYCrysis said:

Let's use this gen ending sales as an example of how next gen sales might go. PS3 has outsold xbox 360 for almost every year. This year PS3 is handily outselling xbox. PS did all of this with a bad launch, higher price vs. xbox, psn outage and issues, and consumer backlash with the taking away of otherOS. Now with the ps4 taking care of all of its shortcomings and with M$ in real bad light I can make a conservative prediction of ps4 outselling xbox worldwide 1.5:1 Lifetime.


I dont know why people always bring up all the negative things the ps3 went through when talking about how the ps3 eventually overcame the 360.  You do realize that the 360 probably had an even worse launch, and struggled for 3 years with some of the biggest consumer backlashes ever with its rrod right?  Or that xbox live cost momey and psn didnt.  Its not like sony conquered some opponent who did everything right.  They both struggled, a lot, but the 360 made even more mistakes than the ps3 did. 

Sony certainly seems poised to take the lead next gen, for sure.  However, who knows what kind of problems can happen, may the ps4 will have a rrod type of disaster.  There is a lot more that can go wrong besides pricing.  

-One box was $399 (£279), the other was $599 (£429). People don't consider the long term cost, because its all about cashflow. 

-One box had a year headstart, the other didn't.

-One box had superior exclusives (check metacritic) for the first 2 years (Gears, forza 2, Mass effect, Bioshock, Halo 3 vs uncharted 1, resistance, lair, warhwak, heavenly sword and motostorm) 

I'd say the ps3 definitely had the bigger uphill battle for the first few years, merely from a gaming standpoint the 360 was better initially. The only fault of the 360 was RROD which IMO doesn't outweight all the things which sony had to go up against.


I worked at retail when both systems came out, you cant understand how big of a deal the rrod was until you see how many people it affected firsthand.  The first year on the markey ms was supply constrained because literally every shipment that came in went to people with broken 360s.  

You want to compare which console had the worse launch?  Compare the sells of each console from their respective launch years.  Sony outsold the 360 from the start.  

Thats all besides the point i was making.  People talk about the ps3 having thishuge uphill battle against the 360 like the 360 came out strong.  The point i was making is that they both had terrible launches.  The only console that had a good launch last gen was the wii.