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enditall727 said:
fordy said:
enditall727 said:
fordy said:


So you think that Microsoft's original thought was "let's screw our base over"? I don't think any reputable company would ever think in such a way, especially with a company like Microsoft that has gotten to a level that it has...I'd say the logical outcome is that they had a vision that was shortsighted, and attempted to have oversights fixed with more oversights, which ended up in a huge mess....


They knew what they were doing. They just didn't see it as being malicious

 

I bet the Nazi's look at themselves as the good guys..


Microsoft's agenda didn't involve genocide, so I'll dismiss such a statement as going overboard.

Now, think of this from a logical standpoint. If Microsoft DID have intentions to screw over consumers like you said, why would they be open and honest with how the system was going to work? Yes, people didn't agree with it, and they changed it accordingly. Do you think they had this intention fromt he start? If anything, if their intentions were as you say, we wouldn't have seen them reverse the decision yesterday, and go on to continue to say that their vision for the console is the correct one. The problem is, when you have an intricate system such as an online-capable games console, you can't just change the rules overnight, especially if that console is already in production. After the initial backlash, they probably had to weigh their options of the losses associated with backtracking from their initial idea, then develop a strategy to roll it back to a similar setup to what you see today...


Lol what o'm trying to say is that there is no evil or maliciousness when looked at by the source who is doing it. MS were trying to bring in a new system that hampers gaming but they didn't look at it that way.

 

Honestly, i think it was a source behind MS that pushed them to do this. MS is an American company and there is some weird sh!t going on here in America. They were basically going to use the Xbox One to help ease people into the New World Order. That will be the era where we lose our privacy. They also want more control.

 

but i'm not 100% sure


Well of course icrosoft want more control over their market, but any company could just say "Hey let's be an asshole corporation and fuck over consumer rights to help our bottom line", but the problem with that is that they know they'll get consumer backlash, and I don't think Microsoft is stupid enough to willingly fall into that hole, because it's an incredibly difficult place to get out of.

Were there external influences? It's possible. In fact, it wouldn't suprise me if Microsoft went up to somebody like EA and said "Hey we have this great idea for optional DRM that we're going to put in the Xbox One", and those developers backed up and said that if they don't add these extra oversights (which IMO seem tacked on to the original idea, whether it was Microsoft's idea to do that, or somebody else), then they wont get their 3rd party support. Ultimately that means that while the oversights might not have been Microsoft's original idea, they're the ones responsible for the consumer backlash, since they're the ones who were trying to shift the goalposts without consideration of consumer rights.