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disolitude said:
bananaking21 said:

microsoft will only say that their current generation platform is the last one once they get that console in everybodies house. if the X1 sells as many units as the 360 you can bet they will make a new gen after it so they can reach more households. they want it to be in the center of the living room and they want to control it. 

also, you wont be able to assemble your X1 from 3rd party publishers, at that point the hardwar will be cheap and even much more cheaper to make. the profit margins will be huge and they wont give that up


Profit margins on gaming hardware? Whaaa? Where? When did this happen? I thought it was common knowledge that hardware gets sold at cost, or under cost and then games make the money back.

Only way these consoles will survive is if they spread their seed and get their software on as many devices as possible. They need to penetrate the livingroom any way they can... There are like 10 different android based machines that do TV and gaming, Apple TV gets redesigned every year and has a massive amount of games available for cheap that are really good, Rokku is doing great things with TV, steamboxes are coming and they will cost from 200-2000 bucks...all shapes and sizes

Google has really changed the industry with Android and smartphones, tablets and even laptops. Windows 8 is following the same model. You will not see Windows 9 any time soon, but instead you will see yearly update software cycles and yearly hardware revision.  Hardware doesn't matter anymore...it lives and then it dies when something better comes along. Software and everything you purchase thoughr lives on (since its digital and transferrable). 

Hence why digital > physical in this day and age.  Hence why this "digital online DRM is the devil" thread is so messed up...

 

at the start of the gen thats how sony and mircosoft have done bussines, but after a few years they start to make money off of the hardware. the PS3 has been making a profit on hardware after early 2010 and that is with an extremely expensive to build piece of hardware. The Wii/DS has made shitloads off of hardware alone.

you keep talking about these benifits of DRM and always online yet i dont see microsoft doing any of them with the xbox 1. "Software and everything you purchase thoughr lives on (since its digital and transferrable). " yet i see no backwards compatiblity with the xbox1. i see no cheaper prices on xbox live and i see no advantages what so ever. microsoft is all talk about the advantages with no action. but when it comes to restrictions and anti-consumer policies they are all in for it. but of course, you will never admit it nor will you stop this defending it, you have your own reason and i honestly dont care for it. things are laid out in a very simple manner for you but we both know what your reaction will be like