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badgenome said:
fordy said:

I would have agreed, had they not shown it so openly to the consumer. You don't think it's weird that a console manufacturer would just opnely say "You know what? Screw the consumer. We want more money", when it's in heated competition with two others? Nintendo got arrogant when it had a clear market majority, Sony got arrogant when it had a clear market majority. I wouldn't expect Microsoft to pull of similar arrgance unless.....you guessed it.....it had the clear market majority.

So you think they were just saying, "You know what? Fuck you," entirely by mistake? Even when all the signs are there that they really are as arrogant as Sony or Nintendo ever were at the height of their dominance? I don't find it hard to believe at all.


As I mention before, they started off with a vision for a next generation, most likely one not so reliant on physical media, and they tried their best to stick with it, even though as time went on, they probably started to come more and more to the realisation that it couldn't work, but still tried to stick with it, and that's where I think they crossed the line. Was it arrogant? It could be seen that way. Probably not as clear as other cases (though the "No internet? Buy a 360" WAS definately an arrogant "dig your heels in" statement).

Do I think it's wrong to think that Microsoft went the direct "fuck you" route? Absolutely. I'd put it more of them thinking too much on one side without enough thought put into the other side (their idea would have been that developers are happy with the DRM and consumers would be happy with the convenience of not constantly requiring the physical media that the game came one, so everybody's happy, right?)