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Quartz said:
You all seem to be forgetting that PC's may have greater graphical power and all that, but the games have a overhead on them to work with different types of cards in different types of PC's. So while the PS4 may never be as powerful as the PC - IT CAN BE optimized better simply due to the fact that the hardware is fixed...


The overhead isn't worth teraflops.

A PC with a similar GPU to the Xbox 360 and PS3 like the Radeon x1950 can play standard-no-effort-put-into-it console ports fine at 720P with 30fps, the same level as the current generation consoles.

Case in point Crysis, which will run fine on any Dual-Core with a Radeon x1950 better than the Xbox 360 or PS3, with better foliage, textures, lighting and more objects on screen.
But don't take my word for it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHWPGmf_A_0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s46UC_gVH_0

Call of Duty will even run on a similar system with 60fps:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpWRJRCNO_A

However, if you take a badly ported game like GTA IV, then even the fastest of PC's will crumble, but that's not the fault of the PC, the PS3 suffered from some bad ports to, like Skyrim. (Again a PC with a Radeon x1950 can play.)
If you grab a game like Battlefield 3, you can't even compare them as even the minimum graphics on the PC is superior to that of the consoles, due to the fact it doesn't support the Direct X 9 feature set at all.

The "Optimisations" consoles get do help, however it's not going to translate into double, triple or quad-druple the performance of an equivalently specced PC though.

iron_megalith said:

Then you could go on and say it's overclockable. Etc etc. Overclocking will scare the shit out of the general consumer. Overclocking is for the enthusiasts. If you go on and fiddle with it with your bad luck/inexperience and break it, you're screwed.


Overclocking these days is tame, long gone are the adjusting of the voltage, FSB etc' via Jumpers on the motherboard, these days it's all about just setting a multiplier and leaving it at that in the BIOS or even in Windows. (Unless it's AMD, they are more enjoyable CPU's to overclock!)
With that said, the risks of overclocking are blown out of proportion, you aren't going to accellerate the effects of electromigration with a mere increase of a Multiplier and it's gotten to the point where it's become more accessible to younger gamers with some Laptops even coming with an "Overclock" button set by the manufacturer. (Some Asus EeePC's had it too!)

However, you are right, the average person wouldn't care or be interested in such things, but the risks of "blowing" up a system these days via Overclocking are pretty much minimal these days.



--::{PC Gaming Master Race}::--