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iron_megalith said:
Kasz216 said:
iron_megalith said:
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HoloDust said:
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iron_megalith said:


A pc rig won't keep up for 10 years as well so goodluck with that. Also there's a difference with paying a huge ammount of money in one go than paying in terms. The latter is more manageable as you don't splurge your money right away.

So no... PC is still more expensive to build not to mention researching individual good parts which is quite a hassle for general consumers.

But really nothing really beats PC in performance. You just need to be stinking rich to keep up with it.


You're joking right?  A PC will totally keep up with a console for 10 years.

If anything the opposite is true.  In 10 years it's the PS4//Xbone that won't be keeping up, while the PC will be able to run games that won't even be on the PS4.


Heck, the PC rig will probably keep up with the PS5/nextbox if you just buy a graphics card that will be cheaper then the PS5/nextbox likely will be.

Uhm, think he meant without upgrading. But even if you want to upgrade, beside the point that you can't wait 10 years (10 years ago, for example, GPUs were still running on AGP), there are a lot of people (majority, I'd say) that simply don't want to bother with that.

While PC gaming certainly has lot of benefits, having closed box that's paid for once and wll serve you for next 8 or more years (like in this cycle) also has its own benefits. Unless it breaks down, that is...but that happens to PCs as well.


You won't need to upgrade though.  The advantage of a closed box is an illusion.

The PS4 will play every P4 for like 8 years ok.  

An 8 year old PC will play all of those games too.  It will play newer PC Games too... at lower settings which will still be greater then what the PS4 wil do.

The old PC not only keeps up with the PS4, but stays ahead of it completely unupgraded.  The PS4 doesn't suddenly download more ram and get really powerful.

You could just get the same "advantage" by buying a PC, and just buying a new one in 8-9 years.

 

The only real reason to buy a console is exclusives.


I dunno about you guys but my philosophy of PC gaming is either you play it on max or you stop whinning how console versions look like shit. Dumbing it down so much won't really make a difference between the two unless you're super picky about "visual fidelity". Sure you get a couple of better textures and 10% more frames but does that really matter that much?

So no... 3-4 years is a good time for a rig. By that time I'll probably be switching my GPU, which will not be cheap.

Also for the record I'm using a first gen i7. Had gone to 2 GPUs now. 470 to 670.


So your argument is "It runs better then the best console, but because it's not max, it clearly doesn't matter and is in fact inferior."

That doesn't make sense to me.  Again your arguement is "It's better then the console but it could be even better, so then I HAVE to upgrade it."

Doesn't really make sense.

Stop twisting things. I admit that PC really is better than console in terms of performance no doubt. However the cost and effort to build one is greater than simply just getting out there and buying a console. Not to mention the gains you would get in the long run granted you stick with your initial set-up are not really that great. The so called "lesser" console counterpart would not really be a game breaking experience.

Then you could go on and say it's overclockable. Etc etc. Overclocking will scare the shit out of the general consumer. Overclocking is for the enthusiasts. If you go on and fiddle with it with your bad luck/inexperience and break it, you're screwed.

The point is. It's expensive and inconvenient(or less convenient) and the difference isn't really THAT mind blowing.

I could list many more things that are convenient with console if gaming is the only thing in mind.  I do a lot of travels and I love bringing my PS3/360 whenever it's possible. You can't simply do that with a decent mid tower rig which weighs a whole lot. Unless you're willing to dismantle every damn parts and leave the casing behind.


Again, it's really only one or the other.  It's either more costly, more effort, or the graphical advantages are smaller... but still exist.

You can argue they aren't significant in the third case, but again the advantages still do exist.

In the end, Nivdia is right.