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oni-link said:
binary solo said:
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binary solo said:
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binary solo said:
Well a lot (but not all) of confirmed Xbone fans think Xbone is not going to outsell PS4 (dunno about Wii U). They just think (my interpretation) that the general consumer isn't going to "get" Xbone, and as a consequence they will miss out on the best console ever made (to date, until the Xbone-2).


can we all agree not to call X1 Xbone...it's just wrong and kinda' annoying actually!!!

Nope. It gets respect from me when it drops it's anti-consumer policies. Until then it's Xbone.

blame the pirates not MS

Why? DRM does not stop pirates. Just ask the PC where DRM is already well entrenched. And it's possible to put in place anti-piracy measure without severely restricting game swapping and trading. DRM is only and specifically aimed at used game trading not piracy.

On the troll thing for Xbone. Fine if the site policy becomes a tyrannical regime which bans people for the sake of not hitting the space bar (Xb one vs. Xbone) then I will abide by that rule. However it will become like Voldemort: the "console that shall not be named."


you could call it XB-one or X1(much simpler) and it wouldn't sound so trollish!!! Seriously I'm surprise the mods haven't cracked down on this yet?

I don't think you understand. I've never before wanted any consumer product to fail, at least not that I can remember. The closest I might come to it might be something like HD-DVD Vs Blu-ray. Unitl I actually had some skin in the game (PS3), I didn't care what format won out, I just knew the world is better off with a unified format, just like the world is better off with a unified USB plug/port design, and a unified HDMI plug/port design. My focus is on wanting products I buy to succeed so that my choice continues to get whatever ongoing support and services it needs to meet my needs. In general because I like people I want their choices to do well enough so that their investment in a product does not get wasted, but not so well that my chosen product whithers up and dies. Strike a happy balance so everyone wins. Live and let live.

With Xbone it's different. Sometimes something comes along which is so bad, and so in violation of my views on rights, fairness and the other good and true things about civilised society that I want that thing to fail, utterly. And if some people who bought into that thing end up losing some time, or money (but nothing too serious, life threatening or life altering - in a bad way), then that's an unfortunate but acceptable and necessary sacrifice to defeat something wrong and bad. MS's DRM policies are such a thing. With those DRM policies Xbone deserves condemnation in my view. I call the 8th gen Microsoft console Xbone as my small form of political protest.

Don't get me wrong. I don't actually want Xbone to fail, I want MS's anti-consumer policies to fail. If that means the complete failure of Xbone that would be an unfortunate, but ultimately beneficial to the consumer, outcome. A better outcome though would be for MS to reasonably quickly realise that their DRM policies are really hurting Xbone's (and the Xbox brand in general) long term viability and they undertake a massive overhaul of the system and revoke all of those policies and become a DRM neutral platform, like the PC and PS4 and Wii U(?). I fear that it is too late for MS to effect such a radical shift, which leaves total failure of Xbone as the only remaining option. You might say the DRM policies aren't that bad? I say thin edge of the wedge.

I'm too laxy and uncreative to turn this into a console / gaming relevant poem, but I hope you can understand how this poem relates to the erosion of consumer rights that woud result through the successful implementation of DRM policies such as that on the Xbone.

First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the socialists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Catholic.

Then they came for me,
and there was no one left to speak for me.



“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

Jimi Hendrix