3D World will be the lowest selling 3D console Mario

[DanneSandin]

RolStoppable said:

DanneSandin said:

The backlash is not contained to this thread though... Not only is this game very similar to a handheld game, it is the successor of said title. Had this been a sequel of sorts but with major differences I don't think people would bitch as much. From the looks of it it's not only a sequel to a handheld game, but t doesn't add anything except co-op (more or less). Do you really think that this game is as innovative as Galaxy? Does this make you go "wooow" the same way Galaxy did? (Why am I asking YOU this?! You love everything Mario that resembles 2D Mario... =P j/k ofc) What I'm trying to say is that the issue of this being a sequel and the none-existing innovation goes hand in hand, and is a major disappointment. And of course ppl want to see high production values; it's something Wii U SEVERELY lacks!!

I think you might be partially right about your second paragraph though - and this ties in with what I'm saying; not expanding the Marioverse and lack of innovation/something new is creating a backlash. NSMB2 and NSMBU is more or less simply copy/paste - as is Galaxy 2, as well as SM3DW, and that's not what people wants from their first 3D Mario for Wii U; they want something new.

 

The people who complain don't even care that the four characters in SM3DW have different abilities or that it's going to be the first 3D Mario with multiplayer on a home console. The entire game has already been disregarded, just because it's going with the formula of SM3DL. On the other hand, the very same people gave/are giving SMG2 a free pass. It's a double standard; one that isn't hard to notice. You can't tell me that people want something new when it's obvious that a sequel would have been fine to them.

The same thing has been going on with Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze. This game also received a lot of backlash, was called unambitious and a waste of talent. The backlash came for no other reason than it being DKC5 instead of Metroid Prime 4 (a sequel that would have been tolerated, just like Super Mario Galaxy 3) or a new IP.

First of all, giving SMG2 a free pass is not having a double standard because they/we are criticizing SM3DW. We're bitching about SM3DW because it's the first 3D Mario on a new Nintendo home console, and it's more or less a sequel (to a handheld title). The first Mario game we got on the Wii was Galaxy, and that made people content. It's everything we wanted from a new 3D Mario title, and giving us more of the same two years later wasn't seen as a bad thing - since we already got what we wanted. Had SM3DW been released as a 2nd 3D Mario I think it would have gotten a lot more praise. Had we gotten a Mario Sunshine 2 as our first 3D Mario on Wii I think it would have received just as much backlash as 3DWorld is getting right now (maybe even more so). SMG2 didn't need to innovate since we already had a 3D Mario game that did that. 3DWorld isn't innovating; it's copy pasting and adding some stuff. (I actually don't think that, but it's easy to see why people think so)