Forza and Gran Turismo are boring games that sell because of visuals.

[ethomaz]

Kuramakun said:
I honestly find them fun, BUT only when you play them with a Steering wheel it makes the game more fun, The controller just isn't fun for racing games.

I agree.

I don't like how MS is putting Forza 5 to be played at E3... controllers is just terrible with sim racings.