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Adinnieken said:
riecsou said:

"if you intend to pick up the PS 4 Eye/Camera and a one year sub to PS+". That says i need only $400 dollar + tax to start playing the PS4, cause PS4 Eye and PS+ sub are optional

"Even if you don't add both, the difference is onlyl $40. " Nope the difference is $100 if I don't had both. "Simple math, as  a matter of fact."

My suggestion there was that you'd at least pick-up PS+.  If so, I'm correct.  If not, you are correct.

My point is that Microsoft is including two things that you'd otherwise have to pay for on the PS4.

Sony isn't including the PS Eye because they know people don't want it.  No point is force bundling anything but the absolute necessary.

What's the second thing that's included for free on Xbox One?