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halil23 said:
RenCutypoison said:

Nop, it's 50 or 60 dollars more (same as DS4)

wth!! so the light bar on the DS4 is useless without the PS4 eye!?!

source/link?

This is from the ps4 pdf they released after the conference.  The bolded is what is included in the console available for preorder.  And yes you won't get all the nice features that the camera does with the lightbar, but I believe there are features that the light bar can do without the camera.

Recommended retail price:
US $399, Canada $399, €399 and £349
Main processor:
Single-chip custom processor
CPU: x86-64 AMD "Jaguar", 8 cores
GPU: 1.84 TFLOPS, AMN next-generation Radeon based graphics engine
Memory: GDDR5 8GB
Storage size: 500GB hard disk drive*
External dimensions:
Approximately 275 x 53 x 305mm
Mass: Approx 2.8kg
BD/DVD drive (read only): BD x 6 CAV, DVD x 8 CAV
Input/Output: Super-Speed USBx (USB 3.0) port x2, AUX port x1
Networking: Ethernet x1, IEEE 802.11b/g/n, Bluetooth 2.1 (EDR)
AV output: HDMI out port, DIGITAL OUT (OPTICAL) port
Included: PlayStation 4 system x1, Wireless controller (DualShock 4) x1, Mono headset x1, AC power cord x1, HDMI cable x1, USB cable x1
*The hard disk drive contains space that is availablable for users and space that is reserved for the system, therefore the actual space that is free for users is smaller than the total space stated.