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walsufnir said:

To GT6, Forza is also an arcade-racer :)

I know you are joking but the most guys says Forza seems like Arcade due the fact that some driving assists can't be disable... never... you can't play like in pro racing cars without all assists... and some tracks are difference from real-life to make easy to the gamers... the weak wheel support is another complain from sim gamers.

There are things really good in Forza franchise (no... not Horizon please) but these little details about simulation upset the hardcore sims fans.