Masterfully done, Sony. Destroy rival, charge for online and still look good!

[lilwingman]

JusSayian said:

cannonballZ said:

JusSayian said:
Nice to see people in damage control, also PS+ is not a value for everyone not everyone will want those games you you know
Also when did the definition of free changed? Those games are not free you need to pay to access them and when you stop paying they are gone.

Damage control? I don't think any of that is needed. But.....

OK, I'll play along. Let's say someone doesn't like any of the games on ps+, which frankly is almost impossible. You are bound to find something you like eventually. But let's just say, nothing on there is interesting. No biggie, you can look at it as an extra if you are paying to play online. That is still more value than what xbox live is giving, at worst it's on par... just charging for online play if nothing else interests you.

Sure, they are not exactly free, but you will have access to them as long as you are a subscriber. In my opinion it has more value than live. 

But that's just covering the value angle........ If paying for online play is a major issue for you, I don't know what to say to that. Both systems will be charging now. There's always Wii U!!

To be honest most of the things Plus gives you for "free" you are paying. You are paying for those discounts, you are paying for those games, you are paying for all those extra in game stuff. Giving you early or exlcusive beta entries is not a bonus either because if + did not exsist you be able to get those beta's for free.

Live offers comparable stuff with its sales for arcade games and what obviously not at the same scale but I really do not know since I'm not a XBL subscriber.

Paying online is not a issue heck I'm not even mad about it. Its just hilarious watching people eat their own words. Sony fans have bashed MS calling them evil and what not for years because they charge for online gaming, now that sony is doing it its all good LOL. Honestly its just pathetic.

Your taking Sony's "victory" tonight on a personal level.  I get it.  No it's not "all good", like you said.  It's an extra cost for a lot of people, and a bit of a back stab (do whatever you want with your games.. just don't play online, unless you pay us), but the PS4 for $399?!  How is it that this thing is $100 cheaper than the Xbox One?  I do not know what decisions were made along the way regarding pricing of the PS4, but if one of those decisions was to drop the price an extra $50-$100, and in return charge users to play multiplayer online - while simultaneously giving them incredible value with their PS+ membership - I absolutely can support it.