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ironmanDX said:
theprof00 said:
ironmanDX said:
theprof00 said:
 

Is exclusives the overall package?

No, it isn't.

Cheaper online per year than MS, Console is like half the size, No mandatory camera,No mandatory installs,  Just as much tv stuff as xboxone (netflix, hulu, etc)?

Ok, how do you know any of these? You don't. I was talking preference. Sony hit it out of the park at the end, don't get me wrong, but the games they showed weren't as impressive as the list for the X1. The price though? $399 is the biggest news. Still also unclear as to whether FFXV and KH3 are exclusive or not. The no DRM and how they're handling used games, is massive also. They've done well.

Console half the size. Just look at them together.
PS+ is retail 50$, live is 60$
Doesn't come with a camera, tehrefore not mandatory
Never said anything about mandatory installs.
Had a whole segment about their tv features.
That's how I know. (also the console size and tv features are a bit exaggerated. Console is like 2/3rds the size, and the tv stuff is comparable)
The games weren't as impressive? Well now that's just your opinion then.

But if you're going to taunt Sony fans and call us hypocrits, your argument shouldn't rest solely on exclusives announced during a single show. The point is, since January, we've seen the same number of exclusives. It's just you got all yours today.

You did say mandatory installs... I copied and pasted! I never called anyone a hypocrite either and made it clear it was preference! I doubt the TV area will be as extensive as MS' on the X1 either. Just look at the consoles together? Post a side by side shot then, would you please? I understand it's smaller but half? MS still haven't shown all their exclusives either. There were 15 games but some were 3rd party exclusive or otherwise.


look at the disc slot. The one on MS is exactly half the size of the console. The xb1 is split into two equal parts at the midsection, and on the left, is a drive and about an inch of space on either side. The right side, being equal in size to the left side, is the same. Therefore, the width of the xb1 is 2 disc drives plus 2 or so inches. Which is 2" + 2x 4.7+" giving about an eigth of an inch to fit the disc, so about 12" width.

the ps4 in comparison is about 4.9" for the drive, plus an inch on either side, plus about 3" for just under 10"

similarly, the lengths are the same since both are boxes. lxw is 144sq" vs ~100sq" which equals about 2/3rds