Shouldn't success be measured by the games?

[Bodhesatva]

naznatips said:

Legend11 said:
Any game with millions of fans isn't overrated. You may not like the game but the fact that millions of others do is a pretty good indication that it's a quality game.

Okay, but if a game has only thousands of fans is it overrated? What about Zack & Wiki? Is it a good game or a bad game? By sales it's bad, but by reviews it's good. Are we to consider both sales and reviews individual identifiers of quality? If a game has one, but not the other is it good? If a game has both, does that make it the best?

What if a game has neither, but is still loved. Example: Ace Attorney games are reviewed in the high 70s and low 80s, but me and many others on the internet consider it one of the best franchises ever made. Are we all wrong? Are we not allowed to think that? Are hundreds, maybe thousands, of people wrong because they enjoyed something more than something else?

Another example: Final Fantasy has many games that have sold in the multi-millions, but it's fans are strongly divided about the quality of each individual game in the series. All games in the franchise have high sales and reviews, and yet there isn't a single game in the franchise that doesn't have a group of people who strongly dislike it. There are very few FF fans who don't strongly dislike at least one of the franchise. Does that make every FF game good? All of them bad? How do we define it?

Again, that's not even considering games that don't sell in one part of the world but do in others. Quality has far too many variables of meassure.

When does sales data become worthwhile, Naz? When it's +-15 percent? +-1 percent? +-.0001 percent? +-50 percent?

How do we even know for sure that VGChartz is off, ever? Theoretically, it's possible that every single figure they've ever given is 100% accurate. It's... very unlikely, but it's possible that Media Create, NPD and other sources are consistently wrong, in some cases, wrong by rather large amounts. 

Where does it end, Naz? Where do you draw the line?