For those with your head in the sand (PS4 DRM)

[papamudd]

@StarCraft: You're drawing a falacious distinction. Again, third parties have already figured out how to enforce such systems, and already charge for them on the current generation's consoles. By my definition, both these companies have already made DRM possible on their current systems, and will both do so again in the new generation, as they have each stated.

However, presupposing that you're correct, and that for some silly reason Sony refuses to engage with third party publishers in any way on making DRM and trade-in systems function, do you honestly suppose that any major game released by a third party with trade-in DRM for the X1 will not have the same trade-in DRM for the PS4?
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There is a distinction between paying an extra cost for a used game, and unlocking online features. Small, but its there as single player games would not be affected.

Effectively MS is doing all the grunt work for a 3rd party to be able to readily track the owner of a specific disc, who they are sharing with, and remove their game rights.

PS4 is doing none of that we know of yet. Effectively it could remain the same as current gen DRM. Now 3rd parties could come up with new ways to enforce a monetization method on the PS4 such as CD keys and that unlocking the unlock key from the ps store. However, that would be entirely up to the 3rd party to do all of that work. Meanwhile, First party exclusives will have no such restrictions or hoops to jump through as x1 already has in place.

I'm not saying the ps4 won't have any type of DRM at all, that would be ridiculous. What I'm saying is that X1 comes readily enabled for 3rd parties to enforce and regulate DRM with their unique system they set up THAT HAS BEEN CONFIRMED / REVEALED to track disc copies on every x1 system, and have it linked to an XBL account.

How it will work with Sony is yet to be revealed as it is up to the 3rd party how to regulate and enforce such things. That does not mean that 3rd parties can't or won't charge for used games on the PS4.

We know how it is going to work on the X1 since they built a large chunk of the gaming experience around it. Truly the only thing they left up to the 3rd parties is how much to charge if at all for used games, as MS will handle all the enforcing and tracking.

That is a big key difference.

The X1 bakes cake, places it in front of you, and then says you can't have a piece until Daddy says its okay. - set up everything for DRM (Tracking, enforcement, etc.)

mean while Sony says "The cake is a lie" - set up nothing for the intentional purpose of DRM