the2real4mafol said:
Kasz216 said:
Well while I think this is awful....
it's worth noting... you're from the UK.
I mean, do you know what the process to get a wiretap in the UK is?
It's easier then even the US and it's secret courts for terrorists.
You just need the Home Secretary to agree. You don't even really need a justification so long as they say it's ok. Track who you call? If they had the manpower the UK could tap literally every phone in the UK tommorrow. If the Home Secretary wants to, your home is wiretapped tommorrow, because fuck you that's why.
While this is awful to American sensibilties, it's worth noting this still isn't even at general Europeon level of invasion of privacy. So it's worth noting if this worries you... you actually have a lot more to worry about at home.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/how_they_do_it/2006/02/wiretapping_europeanstyle.html
Like gun rights this is really mostly more of a US sore point.
So i guess my point is. Police State is still a far ways off... even with this unacceptable violations of privacy.
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I had no idea about this but why would they want to listen to everyone? Haven't they got a country to run? Oh well, it's no wonder the country is going to shit when they aren't doing their jobs properly. The world as it is, really is shit isn't it?. So many problems with the current system of government, it's hard to say where to start to fix them. Maybe, wiretapping phones made sense when the government used to own the phone companies back in the 60's and 70's but these are private companies now, why would they agree to this?
I just wished governments were honest with people, not covering up what wrong they did and just do the job they were elected to do.
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Well said. It is strange however that when the Nazis and the Soviets practice this type of "surveillance" it was considered evil and anti-western (in the soviet case).
As for Kaz's comment about the police state being a far ways off I totally disagree. All it takes is a catalyst and that event or series of events can happen at anytime in this crazy world.
