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thranx said:


it seems it hasn't sunk in yet so i will repeat it again. If both systems offer the same games they are both capable gaming systems. If you choose to dismiss that becuase you can't seperate games from added features that is not everyone elses fault. the fact of the matter is they both will continue to have the same games. All you seem to talk about is price. You say the xbox one is not a gaming machine but your reasoning is price (mind you we dont know that yet). than when givcen a hypothetical what if they were the same price, you go on how you will get nickel and dimed with other stuff. As a gaming machine, minus any other features, it is going to play the same type of games as the ps4.

For all we know the xbox will be released at a cheap price (through cable providers maybe). But we dont know price yet, for the ps4 either. So why compare price, it is all made up numbers. I guess its fun to compare made up numbers, but at the end of the day we will learn nothing from made up prices and numbers.


That is a different debate, you are claiming things i didnt say because you werent on this debate since the start and didnt read everything. Its not the conversation that was happening here. The conversation we were having were about the value of the features.

The games debate is more complex as it will enter into quality of games wich is a more subjective topic.