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dane007 said:
superchunk said:
dane007 said:

But its not good for teh gamign indsutriesd if these people rely on borrowing and play tthje game and finish sp capaigns and then play the multiplayer without havign to spend a single dime RIGHT? 10 cpas for family members is  abit small but i guessing its based on per household and they easily increase it with a patch. People comp,aining ae just too greedy and want everythign to be free

You're jumping to conclusions that do not exist.

There are laws about used clothes, cars, books, music, (fill in any other physical commodity)....

If you buy it, you own it. That is it.

I bought a game on a disc for $60... $45.. $15. It doesn't matter what I do with it, I own it. If I want to give it to my nephew because his poor parents can't afford shit.. I should be able to. If he then wants to give it to his little brother... he should be able to.

If I want to resell it on eBay so I can buy some other new game or new console by selling all my used shit, I should be able to.

This is 100% bad for consumers of every industry because if it works and is accepted, say goodbye to used everything that can be digitally tracked.

I can say ti everyoen here who assumes taht sonmy won't do it based on vague answer givien by sony employers. They hav eyet ot explain in detail how their policy works. I respect your opinion. However gaming is a luxury hobby . Its not jsut a hobby that can be picke dup anyone. For example if you are in really low socio economic category then  you shouldn't be be gaming at all. You should be  focussing on how to support family, yourself, getting an education  and so on. Gaming would be least of their worries.  If he has a console but can't buy all the games then all he needs to do is to wait till the game priuces dropped and then uy it. Is taht really hard for people to do these days or do peopel expect to get off scott free? When you buy a game, you are purchasing the right to use that license and thats  it. Anyone who borrows teh game is still the previosu owner llicense intead of supporting teh developer and payign for tehir own license ot play it. That has being going on since the ps1 days and teh drm stuff for it could hav e been eaasily implemented if they wanted to do. The only difference this gen its closely monitored so studios who develop the game gets thesale tehy deserve. Tell me this ,, is it okay for us to prevent a slae of agme  incerasing teh chance of clsoign a studio dsown because we decied to laend our games ot friend who would never spend a penny ?  This policy by MS reminds me of Steam and it works perfectly.


I expect that if I use my parents holiday house on a greek island. That I can take my gaming system with me if I so please. Also I guess I cant give my system/games to my less fortunate friends if I want to.

Also NO Developers and Publishers have not the right to get money from a resale. That assumption is just crazy. Who gave them the right ? Since when can anyone who produces a product demand money if it gets sold to a third party ? Does SOny Pictures get another 5 bucks if I sell my Spiderman Blurays ? Does some musician get a cut if I sell a CD ? ALso lets not go there with but games are 60 bucks. Thats BS I have books that are 120 and I can still resell them and plenty of people do because they are expensive.

Also I really doubt used games cut deep. People who dont have the money to buy new. Wont do it anyway even if there are no used games. They will simply wait or look for alternatives. Because they simply CANT Buy that game. But now the guy who originally sold the game cant buy a new one either because he cant sell the game he doesnt like anymore.

Lets be honest here Videogames are a middle class persons hobby. Those are the customers. They dont have tons of money to throw around. Sure there are gamers with money too but why dont we see 150 Dollar Games ? Because people can not afford it. Eliminating used sales is just a trick.

 

A trick to force customers to have to use a certain online service aslong as they want to play the game. Thats fine for games which are Multiplayerbased. But its stupid and pointless to do that with a game like Skyrim. Even in 20 years you will have to use Xbox Live to play Fallout 4. MS basically disowns the customer. The best thing is that one day XBox Live becomes mandatory for cloud reasons and you will have to pay forever to get access to your games.

And the whole used games thing. Just to be clear it is designed in a way that makes it unappealling to resell the games at all.

 

@jgarret

 

The mode is not exclusive to XBox. CONTENT for that mode is exclusive.