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Netyaroze on 06 June 2013
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disolitude said:
superchunk said:
disolitude said:

Sorry family member sharing only...

"Give your family access to your entire games library anytime, anywhere: Xbox One will enable new forms of access for families. Up to ten members of your family can log in and play from your shared games library on any Xbox One. Just like today, a family member can play your copy of Forza Motorsport at a friend’s house. Only now, they will see not just Forza, but all of your shared games.  You can always play your games, and any one of your family members can be playing from your shared library at a given time."

In terms of ownership and losing value, games have the worst depriciation of any product out there. Within a month usually you lose half of the value. Within a year you'd be happy to get 5 bucks for 80% of the games out there. Its definetly not an investment you should consider for any other purpose other than entertainment.  

I see a slew of potentials here with this family thing that will save me and my friends lots of money. but even if it falls through, so be it, I may not buy as much. All I know is that I have ~50 bucks every week dedicated to gaming, most of which end up sitting and rotting in me Steam library or on a bookshelf. 

This Xbox One absolutely changes nothing for me.

I edited my post to be more clear. I meant sharing while being able to play same game at same time and I guess there is one advantage that depending how you define your family, you can share games independently without having to transfer a disc. So that's nice. (no sarcasm there, it is nice)

But I still don't like the concept of losing ownership and/or used gaming... and your devaluation of games is off base. I do used all the time and its no where near that cheap that fast on almost any game unless it was crapware to begin with. But now, instead of buying a $60 game a couple months later for $35, it will likely only be full price at say $50.

Countless times I've bought a game used for say $35. Played it for a month or two. Then resold for like $30. Or same situation with a new game for $50 and then resold two months later for $35. There's definite value in used market for buyers and sellers, so long as you ignore Gamestop.

This does change stuff for you as it makes DRM policies accepted. Eventually it will get worse and then you'll look back and wish you said "no" in 2013.

I do understand the used games case you are describing and that does make the Xbox less appealing to someone that is able to buy and resell a game at a 5-10 dollar loss. At the same time I understand why Microsoft doesn't want that, and franky doesn't care if you buy their console.

I also see why they want people with internet to buy it. Its clear that Microsoft wants to push their services more than sell games at this point. Just look at the Xbox One...Xbox, Kinect, Skype, Windows, Bing, IE, Skydrive, Azure...all present in one form or another. Its like Microsoft All Stars 2013...lol. While Microsoft is most likely aware that some people will skip their console because of lack of internet...I am pretty sure they calculated that the value of pushing their other services will make up for that, and then some.

I don't know what I will say down the road about this...but for now I just want to be entertained and I don't see anything wrong with Xbox One. If Xbox One has good games, I will buy it. If it any point down the road, it becomes untolerable with its DRM policies, I will get rid of it and game somewher else.

I don't see anything wrong with this way of thinking.

Your problem is you are looking at it from MS perspective. Sure its good for them. And yes If I were the CEO I would do the same and slowly raise my DRM over time and take the consumers rights he previously had all his life slowly away in order to maximize profit and get even more money.

 

A company would if they could just send you a bill every month and bill you 3000 Dollar for sending you that bill.

MS just tries to find out whats the smallest amount of things they have to give in order to get the most stable and lucrative access to your wallet. Thats their business.

From a Corporate perspective everything MS does is nice and logical. I can see the logic in all of their decisions.

 

But from a consumer perspective everything MS does right now sucks. Its not good for any consumer. There might be people who dont mind yet, that still doesnt mean they aren't worse of than before. Maybe it doesnt affect you massively but it does affect alot of people. What good is the best game if I can't play it when I have the time to do so. How much worth is a 60 bucks game really if I cant give it to a friend of mine or keep it and show my grandchildren one day which I fully intend to do with my SNES games.

 

And its ridicuous to think that if Publishers get more money they will spend more for the games development. Look at COD it makes Billions but I really cant see it being better than games who sell far less. If Publishers make more money through eliminating used games 95% of the profits will go into someones pocket. Be it the Shareholder or some guy working there buying a 4k TV instead of a 1080p one because he got a raise.