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Adinnieken said:
Nem said:


You really are unpleasent to talk to. For the intelligence you claim to have you seem unable to make a post without some sort of insult in it.

Its not my fault that you want to somehow have a partial view of the situation so your points seem valid. I explained everything clearly on my post. I'm not gonna bother when you're going in circles.

I'm not talking in circles. 

From your perspective, any added feature that's beyond gaming is of no value.

The Xbox One isn't like buying a TV and a Refrigerator.   It is more akin to purchasing a TV with a built in DVD player.  Is it going to have value to everyone?  No.  Does it have the potential to have value, to people it doesn't currently offer value to, in the future?  Yes.  There are several features of the Xbox 360 and the original Xbox that falls into that. 

The Xbox 360 included integration with Windows Media Center.  Not many people took advantage of that feature, but for those that did, it was an great feature.  Yay to them!  I didn't particularly like it and found it slow as molasses, but that doesn't take away from the benefit other people found in the feature nor does it take away from the feature itself, nor did that harm the value and ability for the device to play games.

I'm not willing to accept the premise that every feature must be valued by every person who could potentially purchase the console.  There are features and capabilities that are important to one person that aren't important to another person, but they may still buy the same product to file their need and the things they didn't think were important they may find are important to them later.

A family member bought a new car this summer, it had AWD, which she didn't really think would be useful to her.  That is until this past winter when she suddenly realized, on the way to work, that she was driving through conditions that her previous car would have struggled with and which her husband in his car had gotten stuck.  Something that wasn't of importance to her, something which she wouldn't have outright purchased the car for, ended up being and important feature to her.

I don't honestly understand how a feature cannot be a added value, if it's something over and above what is required.  I can understand that something may not be of particular value to you, but the question wasn't do you value it.  The question I asked was whether or not something was an added value.

 

I didnt say it wasnt nice to have extra features. What i said is that the decision making process is more complex than that and the core concoles features take precedance and definitly arent the same for both systems.

Given this, having little extra features doesnt make the product a more appealing purchase when these arent enough to overshadow the core features that are denied or stealth charged to you on the Xbox one.

And by the way, you can connect your PS3 to the computer to stream media aswell. It wasnt an Xbox 360 exclusive feature. We actually dont know if these features will also be on the PS4, but we do know that Sony doesnt slap us in the face with it and chooses to focus on the core features, wich are what we really care about when buying a console.

 

If i had to explain what i mean to you in the simplest manner... I think you posted a bar graphic with Xbox One and PS4 value claiming they were equal on core gaming features and Xbox one had more features outside that and therefore more value. What im telling you is that the part you claimed is equal, isnt. And as such the overall value isnt skewed towards the Xbox one like you think it is. If you remove those features we enter an imaginary world that is irrelevant or only relevant for set up box cutomers. It is a games console were buying.