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Nem said:

That is quite simple.

Added costs on the Xbox one: Kinect, fee for online play and probably all these TV features, no rechargeable battery on the gamepad, no used game resale value, no trust in long term core gamer software support. These all lower the value of the Xbox one for the consumer.

If both were sold at 400 the PS4 would offer alot more value per money. Microsoft loves to bundle in all these hidden fees. The TV features because completely inconsequential next to those.

Sorry, but you're attempting to introduce a different subject matter into this conversation.  That isn't what this conversation is about.

I asked if, for the same price, you get more features in the box with the Xbox One, wouldn't that make it a better value regardless of whether or not you think those features are important to you now or not?

We can have a bigger discussion in a different thread later about what features of the PS4 you do value and why later.  This thread is about the programming Guide feature of the Xbox One and where in what direction Microsoft may be headed with it.

So, answer the question.  If the Xbox One has features that the PS4 doesn't have, doesn't that make it a better value regardless of whether or not you think those features are important to you?