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Nem said:


Who says i dont? I dont have one of those smart phones. Never felt the need.

But i dont think its the same kind of intrusion. Now you're telling me that the videos you make get sent to them aswell? I find that odd, but its quite bad if its true.

This will be more informative than anything i can say. I think the speaker is even from Germany and is going off of what German phone compaines keep on him.

I think even "dumb" phones can be data mined and tracked. Not just smart phones.

http://www.ted.com/talks/malte_spitz_your_phone_company_is_watching.html

 

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German Green politician Malte Spitz went to court to obtain the information that his cell phone operator, Deutsche Telekom, gathered (and kept) about his activity. The results astonished him. Over the course of six months, they had tracked his geographical location and what he was doing with his phone more than 35,000 times. Working with the German newspaper Die Zeit, an infographic was created that shows Spitz's activity across an interactive timeline, combined DT's geolocation data with information relating to his life as a politician, such as Twitter feeds, blog entries and website. By pushing the play button, viewers can set off on a detail-rich trip through six months of his life. And more, because he keeps asking the telecom company for his most recent data.

Spitz, a member of the Executive Committee of the German Green Party, is responsible for media and new-media policies, civil liberties and privacy issues.

"Seen individually, the pieces of data are mostly inconsequential and harmless. But taken together, they provide what investigators call a profile–a clear picture of a person’s habits and preferences, and indeed, of his or her life."

"Betrayed by Our Own Data," Die Zeit"

 

To me that kind of data gathering and comiling is far more scary than any videos that may be taken with kinect. Especially since this is MS and every watch dog and consumer advocate group will be watching them. Any other company may get a free pass, but not MS. I have faith that anyhting they do to infringe on privacy will be shouted to the high heavens by people. there fore forcing MS to be really safe, where as other companies are not scrutinized nearly as much. This is a digital age we live, no free service is free, its just an exchange of your habits being sold to ad companies for use of what ever "free" service you get.