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Subie_Greg on 31 May 2013
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ironmanDX said:
Subie_Greg said:
ironmanDX said:
 

Madden is 1 game. EA showed 4, then there was Forza and Quantum Break. Ok. 2 casual games in CoD and Madden = whole reveal catered for the casuals.
Good to know.

People who pored 80 hours into lost odyssey may like sports. Me included. Watching T.V through a device shouldn't be considered core or casual... It's TV!!!

Listen I'm not going to try to convince you. You already have your mind made up. You are determined to defend Microsoft no matter what and that's fine. If all the Master Chief's out there want to believe that the new Xbox is targetted for the core/hardcore gamer then that's their choice. 

If you rather have a console with Kinect that allows you to say "Xbox... channel 29" rather than a GPU on par with the PS4, then great. I would prefer the GPU but that's just me

I'd want a gaming console that 's primary focus is gaming... not an after thought

I'm determined to defend MS? Wrong. You made an incorrect statement and were corrected. Get over yourself. TV isn't "casual" nor "core". People like to label things for whatever reason.. To feel more informed? To separate themselves to feel superior? Who knows. I notice you stepped away from the reveal being catered to casuals in your last comment too... Interesting.

The GPU argument? I understand the PS4 will be more powerful then the X1 but so was PS3 more powerful then the 360 and that didn't really have too much effect this gen, did it? 80% of games sold were 3rd party, 80% of the games will be exactly the same.

First don't compare PS3 and 360 to Xbox One and PS4. Development  for cell was the issue. Now both are x86. It's apples and oranges. Actually apples and... speed boats or some shit like that. 

And you are determined to defend them. And you didn't correct shit btw

You could have liked everything at the reveal. But to say it wasn't geared toward the casuals is insane. I understand why Microsoft is doing it. The casuals offer them more money to be made. They want Wii numbers, not 360 numbers. Smart business

The problem with the reveal is that the type of gamer who tunes into a reveal like that is core gamers. The same people who look a couple times a week for info on a new console 6 months before it even releases. And they felt slapped in the face after the reveal.

Your looking at this as my opinion vs your opinion. You need to look at it as your opinion vs everyone elses. Go look on twitter or facebook. Go look on youtube. Go look at forums such as this. Sites like kotaku and see what the journalists are saying and the comments that readers leave. I'm sure it's just Sony fanboys though 

And yes, if Microsoft comes thru at E3 it can make all this mean nothing. But we are living in the here and now. And people feel like Microsoft abandoned the core gamer. 

If you want to believe that the reveal and everything in it was for the core gamer, then go ahead. After that I can sell you a bridge to no where if you'd like