All this negativity won't stop Xbox One sales

[SvennoJ]

nightsurge said:

SvennoJ said:

The ps4 will get the same reaction if it's going to pull the same crap.
However we should not jump too conclusions, nothing has been confirmed yet unlike with the xbox one.

Sony has a bigger incentive to make it possible to play without internet, since they sell a lot more in countries with poor internet.
So far the eye toy has been an extra, there are no plans to fully integrate it in the OS, no reason for it to required to be always on.
As far as used games, the statement of leaving it up to publishers is very worrying. However for now the rumors and suggestions point to the ps4 not requiring internet. That would exclude the draconion drm system of xbox one.

Anyway all eyes will be on Sony for this, if they pull the same crap I'll keep enjoying this gen for a couple years longer.

Nothing has been confirmed yet on Xbox One either. That was my point.

The only thing that has been confirmed on Xbox One is that you WILL be able to play used games and WILL be able to sell/trade/buy used. The stuff about requiring internet checks every 24 hours is not confirmed. Neither is the stuff about supposed "used games fees" which in reality seemed to be debunked pretty well as a huge misrepresentation by the media. What was said is that if someone loaned a game to a friend that friend would have to buy the game to play it, or use your Xbox Live account. That's entirely different from a "used game fee". That's simply saying, if you have the game on your system and want to buy it directly through the Xbox One/Microsoft, you are likely going to pay full price for it.

Even that stuff is not yet confirmed and could be changed very easily, so who knows.

The part of physical games getting tied to your account has pretty much been confirmed, locking out lending, swapping and sharing of physical games. What has been proposed so far for sell/trade/used is very unsatisfactory as it removes all competition and does require a regular internet check to see if you still own your copy.

Really it all starts with not needing the disc in the tray to play a game. All the problems start there.
They can change it by allowing you to transfer your game license yourself, although you're still stuck with regular online requirements.

It would be so much more simple to leave the rights tied to the disc, while offering digital downloads of all games for people who do not want to keep track of discs.

Hopefully all the negativity will make them reconsider turning physical games into little more then data carriers for digital ones.