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Spedfrom said:
Legend11 said:

The Wii was one of the most bashed consoles on forums and it had amazing sales that would have continued to this day if Nintendo had not dropped the ball with it. I also remember many people in the forums drooling over Vita in the months leading up to its launch and saying Sony was doing everything right and look how that turned out.

The forums represent only a small percentage of buyers and can be wildly inaccurate simply based on the fact that it doesn't even represent an accurate cross-section of the gaming public. I mean look at COD, the games in that series sell 20+ million yet it doesn't get even half the love in forums that some other games that sell 2 million do.

Also as far as many people on the forums saying they'll never buy an Xbox One, well remember the Modern Warfare 2 boycott that was on the forums a few years ago, it was funny when sales reports were coming in talking about it smashing sales records. It just goes to show you what "never" can sometimes mean in these forums.

There's more to analyse in those situations.

The Wii might have been bashed in the forums, but to the general populace it was an easy to use console with an innovative controller that represented new ways of having fun alone or with friends and family. None of its features secluded anyone from doing anything with the console. Its main focus for the casual gamer was fun in a group, that's why the Just Dance series smashed on the console. And more to the point, the console had the GAMES to support that vision, that purpose.

The Vita was and still is complimented on the forums as a great piece of hardware and while it is now getting great games, even though lots of them are indies which the casual gamer is not much aware of, it didn't have many of them in the beginning, despite an extremely good selection at launch. As you can see, it's all about the games. However, the mobile gaming trends haven't gone to the Vita's favour too. Other than that, it has no features that get in the way of your game playing lifestyle.

Now the Xbox One is intrusive as it will always be aware of what is going on visually and sonically in the room it is placed in. To me that is invasion of privacy and it creeps me out. It will also have a restricted used games policy, entirely controlled by Microsoft. You will not be able to just lend a game disc to a friend for a month, because unless you're willing to part with your account details, he won't be able to play it by himself. Can you see where this is going? Intrusive and restricting. Those are two handicaps, not qualities. Try explaining to a casual gamer that that game he wants so badly and can't afford at the moment, but whose friend has it so he'll borrow it from him, can't actually play it on his console when he gets home alone, he'll be grasping for understanding. Furthermore, the games presented so far aren't anything too surprising or unexpected. Microsoft really needs to have a good E3 showing with games galore if they want to convince people. One thing I'm certain is, the Xbox One is totally different beast from the Xbox 360. And personally, not in a good way.

Will you be upset when PS4 has very similar used games policies and the PS4 EyeToy device functions in very similar ways?

We already know the PS4 will have the same "instant on" cability which means it will be "always on". Seems only logicial that the Eyetoy would be able to respond to "Playstation On" or whatnot. It also seems highly likely that the Eyetoy will be included with every PS4 (if this hasn't been confirmed yet, I'm sure it will be by E3). So won't this Eyetoy also be watching you the entire time your PS4 is on? Sony has never made any statements towards whether the PS4 would work without the Eyetoy.

Should we all jump to conclusions and say the PS4/Sony will be stalking us and blocking used games since they have not been clear on any of it so far?!?!?!?!