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scat398 said:

Or those wonderful people that walk among you that commit suicide because their secular living does not place importance in the value of life.  ... See how it works both ways, religion does provide benefit and has provided far more good in the world than evil.

scat398 said:

That's actually not what i said but fortunately we have this great thing called research that shows people of faith are less likely to commit suicide, they are also shown to be happier overall.  Do you find this to be a difficult truth to accept.  The person I responded too originally had made a horrific and frankly very foolish statement and I was simply pointing out the flaw.

Show the proof that non-religious people see no value in life. Show me example of non-religious people that have committed suicide because of their lack of belieft in religion and not because of their individual circumstances.

My life has a lot of meaning and I don't need Someone to come and tell me it has. I give my life it's own meaning. You are completely wrong by saying a person who has no religion doesn't see meaning in life.

Show me that research and who came with it. If it even exist I bet it was some cualitative research that failed to take things in consideration like interviewing people in the same circumstances, with the same problems and with signals of depressions. I wouldn't be suriprised if they just asked a bunch of happy people that happened to be religious and that of course said: "Of course not, I wouldn't kill myself! Puff!".

But let us just believe your reseatch is accurate and say that there is more people without religion thinking about suicide in comparison to religious people. Now let us see how their suicides can affect society:

A person who suicides without religion:

 

A person who suicides with religion:



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