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what it boils down to is essentially the xbox supporters i thought were reasonably intelligent are at best questioning microsofts actions, at worst already junped ship to pc/wiiu/ps4, the xbox fans i guessed would defend every fault no matter how ludicrous or how contradictory to previous arguments about the same issues with other systems, are doing just that.

predictability makes forums boring, so far i've not had any surprises about certain users reacting to the xbox reveal, pretty much like the xbox reveal itself, no surprises.