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kitler53 said:
jlrx said:


btw, if this is true, and GameStop or whomever gets $3.50 per game, how much is the consumer going to get?


without a free market there is only one answer,..   whatever MS and their approved partners are willing to give you.

 

you know what else occured to me that is pissing me off about this.  say there is a ma and pa type shop that is currently selling used games.  first i'm 100% postive they weren't part of the process as MS undoubtedly only asked their "retail partners" aka gamestop.   ma and pa shops are basically is at MS mercy to whether or not they can say in business and will basically have to agree to whatever terms MS is willing to give them.   some people are saying gamestop must be pissed but i'll bet they are extatic about this.  without ebay, craigslist, ma and pa shops, amazon, best buy in the mix gamestop is probably going to have a near monopoly on the used game market.   they probably were thrilled to give MS 10% back in exchange for the entire market..

..and i even if ma and pa shop can get one of MS's propreitary Azure systems into their shop how much would you bet that MS is going to require them to pay for the installation of the server?  And how much do you want to bet that server is locked down by MS and becomes a part of MS's could?   remember those 300,000 servers MS bragged about for their cloud service?  well i can see it now... MS is positioning themselves to get payed twice for the same product.  consumers pay to access the cloud that retailers payed to create.


Exactly this. Don't expect to get a reasonable amount back to finance your next purchase. With competition the trade in value became reasonable over time, not the $5 dollar bullshit, but $30-$40 trade in credit when buying a new game. Forget about that now. No picking up a 4 year old game for $10 either.

- Plus no lending games to family or friends
- No giving away old games when a friend or family member buys a new system to get them started.
- No selling your console with games on ebay or kajiji etc.

And the excuse that game prices haven't gone up with inflation... Well retail/digital revenues have.

Plus digital sales are going up which cuts out a ton of costs. There is your inflation when you pay $60 for a digital download.
Revenues are shrinking now, raising prices or making sales less atractive with schemes like this when sales are declining is not a good idea.