S.T.A.G.E. said:
thranx said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
thranx said:
I agree with the letting the friends borrow games. that is stupid and anti gamer. on the used games though, they have clearly stated that they have a method for trading and selling used games, they just have not anounced how it will work, or the fees involved. The steps Valve has taken have killed off used gaming too, but with it they brought cheap games, so it worked for consumers. This may work too. I will reserve my judgment until I know more. I personaly dont buy used games, but I want my sytem to support it as I know it's needed to keep others gaming and too keep more money in the gaming economy. I game almost exclusivly on steam, and now with amazon on demand pc games, so for me the xbone is going to be perfect, if it has cheap games like amazon and steam. if not I may not get it.
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In Valves case PC gamers had been forced into digital distribution with licensed games a long time ago. Valve just made it worth their while for lack of ownership. Consoles are the last place of true game ownership. I feel bad everyday I see a PC gamer walk into Best Buy or Gamestop and ask for the game. The physical selection is extremely slim and its only really the major titles that have that type of support.
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Yes, but look at what has become of abanding reatil for pc. pc now has more indie games than ever, more selection of games, and its easier to get old games. Basically its made it possible to always get a game. No out of print. No out of stock. Now games can be released for some the smallest niche markets. they each have their pluses and minuses. I think thats why ms still has retail game this gen and didn't go entirely digital. this is realy a transition gen, and the next gen may not have physical discs at all. I really do hope MS is smart about this and does not try to kill off used games. I just cant wait until we know all the info (mainly price) for bothps4 and xbone
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PC has those things because of Valve. A couple years ago before the popularity of casual, indy and Steam sales PC was in danger of being irrelevant. The thing that makes consoles relevant is having a unified publisher or source, and Valve is taking that central role for PC, but they do not speak for PC as a whole. PC is still an open format product and I speaking of Valve I would've bought my Mass Effect trilogy from them if it wasnt for Valve not being supported for ME3.
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PC was never in danger of being irreleveant. Steam isn't the only digital distributor online. I even said i use amazon, and steam. But there is also GoG, games on demand, blizzard, origin, any other pc game that self publishes and distributes. It was all enabled because they went digital. Valve was at the forefront and was the leader, but it would have happened with or with out them. its being digital and not relying on retail stores that allowed it. not steam in and of itself.
