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Subie_Greg on 19 May 2013
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sales2099 said:
Subie_Greg said:
sales2099 said:

Comparing random IPs isn't getting you anywhere. The question is what is bigger.....$$$$ is the only logical way to determine. Offcourse Need for Speed is a bigger IP....it too is multiplat and a annual release. 

Your argument is referring to 1 vs 1. The major flaw is that it isn't the full picture. You must compare all games, as is the thread title. I use this gen only as it is current and gives a accurate picture of current levels. That means comparing every GT and every Halo this gen. 


Sorry I just disagree. Need For Speed isn't a bigger than Halo or GT. 

If it's the multiplatform that is bugging you I will (not that I want to) compare sales of GT5 and the last combined 4 forza games. Adding up the last 3 or 4 Forza games will give you a higher number than GT5. So that means Forza is bigger than GT5? No 

If the only logical way to answer this was by $$$$ and number of games this gen... then the thread would never need to be created because the question was already answered before it was asked. 

And by that logical way of thinking. Almost any game in the last 5 years is bigger than Half Life. Aliens CM is bigger than Half Life

You can't argue with numbers. You are on vgchartz. Look up the total sales of Need for Speed this gen and compare it to GT sales this gen and tell me GT is more valuable. lol you can't. 

Your Forza example is very wrong too as GT5 isn't a loner.......it has GT5:P and GT PSP sales. IP sales means ALL games. GT as a IP outsold Forza as a IP this gen. Sooo that point too has been debunked.

Your third line can only be answered because many people don't see this as a business question. They answer with their emotions and preferences when this is a pure industry and numbers question. You are one such example that has much trouble grasping this concept with the Half life comment. Sure Half life has a great following and buzz....but actual sales this gen are lacking. Thats Valves fault, not the IP mind you. 

I just disagree with you. Yeah numbers/sales is a big part of the answer to the question, but there is more to it. 

Not sure how you debunked the Forza GT comment. I said GT was bigger. So you didn't debunk... you agreed

It's not emotions or preference. Halo is bigger than Need For Speed. When a new Halo comes out it's a big deal. Nothing like that when a new Need For Speed comes out. Need For Speed has the numbers it does because they release the same game over 3 or 4 platforms. 

Your way of solving this question is very flawed. Epic Mickey isn't bigger than Half Life. Your logic is wrong

I am not going to argue this with you until the end of time. I also will not insult you like you clearly tried to do to me in your last post. But your logic is wrong. Epic Mickey, Aliens CM, or any game in the last 5 years that sold 1 million units isn't bigger than Half Life just because Valve hasn't made a new Half Life